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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: We are joined from the Comptroller and Auditor General's office by Mr. Andy Harkness, director of audit, and he is accompanied today by Paula O'Connor. Apologies have been received from Deputies Pat Deering, Mary Lou McDonald and Alan Kelly. The first item on the agenda is the minutes of the meeting of 30 November 2017. Are they agreed? Agreed. Are there any matters arising? As there are...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Is that agreed? Agreed. No. 969B isfrom Mr. Paul Quinn, chief procurement officer, Office of Government Procurement, and is dated 5 December 2017. It provides a note on the purchase-to-pay card system, as requested by the committee at the meeting on 16 November 2017 in response to a reference to the system by Sean Ashe, the CEO of the Kildare and Wicklow ETB. The correspondence states the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: We will hold it over. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Does Deputy Connolly mean at the end of our discussion of correspondence?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: No problem. Nos. 974B and 980B are two items of correspondence from multinational companies which I propose we hold over for the moment and come back to when we have all of the correspondence. Is that agreed? Agreed. No. 975Bis from Ms Carol Hanney, chief executive of the City of Dublin ETB and is dated 7 December 2017. It provides follow-up as requested by the committee at the meeting...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: We have two options. We can hold over this matter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Is that agreed? Agreed. No. 977B is from Ms Fionuala McGeever, chief executive of Tipperary ETB. It is dated 8 December 2017 and provides follow-up as requested by the committee at the meeting with ETBs on 16 November 2017. Matters dealt with include Ferryhouse school, key performance indicators, use of a building in Thurles and details of corporate governance training for staff. Is it...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Correspondence 985B (i) and (ii) is dated 13 December 2017. It is a copy of a letter from the Department of Finance to the IBRC special liquidators. Again, I propose that we note it and discuss all of that correspondence when we get to that part of the meeting. Is that agreed? Agreed. We now move on to category C, correspondence from and related to private individuals and any other...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: It will be at the end of January. It was agreed that we would put it in our work programme. We intend to meet him after he has completed his report. We can talk to him about his published report at that stage. There are three items we are hoping to discuss with Dr. Thorn, namely, the report; issues in respect of the University of Limerick; and the advice he gave to the CEO and chair of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: We have sent all the correspondence we have got. The process was set in train by the Department as it is a departmental review. He has been appointed and the expectation is that he will publish his report in January.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Yes, and we have brought all of that to his attention.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Are members happy with the process? My understanding is that Dr. Thorn is continuing with his work. Previous correspondence from councillors and members of the board has been forwarded to him and there is more information today, which will be sent on. We are not going to meet him until after his report has been completed. One of the areas of concern we have is over his interaction with...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: The relevant Department is the Department of Education and Skills.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Apart from sending the correspondence we received today to Dr. Thorn, are we proposing that we do anything additional or are members happy with that?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: We can write to the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Is that agreed? Agreed. We now move onto No. 4 on the clár, which is statements and accounts received since the last meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Does the Deputy know who was to carry it out?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: Perhaps we could write to Caranua about it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Dec 2017)

David Cullinane: We still have not received that correspondence.

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