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Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I get the point. How many tenders were submitted for phase A?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: How many tenderers?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Did the other four not take a view that they might be considered for phase B?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I know.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Did the tenderers know that if they won phase A they were sorted for phase B?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: As you were happy, we went with them and did not have a second tender. Is that the case?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: But you went ahead.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Exponentially.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Was that a board decision or a policy of the Government?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: It had nothing to do with the Government.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: When was that decision made?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: That was within six days of the meeting on the 12th.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: I am sorry; I am talking about 10 December.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: It is important that we read the minutes of the steering group meeting on 28 October:PD [Phelim Devine] reported that the GMP process has not yet concluded. A report in relation to the GMP process will be submitted to DS [Mr. Sullivan] as chair of the CHP and P steering group in advance of the next board meeting which was to be 16 November 2018 but did not take place until 10 December...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Given the amount of money involved and the recommendations made, do the terms of reference of the steering group include a reference to your discretion in deciding whether to consult it or inform its members?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: To what end? It could have been for you to say you were making a big mistake.

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Did you consult the members? Could you have had a meeting to tell them? You knew that they had serious concerns because they were detailed in a full paragraph in the minutes, but when the board met, there was simply a sentence. It stated the guaranteed maximum price process had concluded in November and that the board recommended continuing with the current contract. It is an awful waste...

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: What do your members think? Why could you not have had a meeting by phone or conference call?

Public Accounts Committee: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board: Financial Statements 2017 (31 Jan 2019)

Marc MacSharry: Some but not all.

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