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Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: To which year is Mr. McCarthy referring?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Has Mr. McCarthy any idea about 2013? Is it the same or lower?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Is it standard not to have figures for 2013 until mid-2015?:

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: If that happened with some of the audits we are responsible for, we would be on the case. We pursue different Government agencies, third level institutions, VECs and so on and we have made a concerted effort to get updated audit reports from all these agencies. If they started reporting that they did not have the 2013 audits, as we bypass the first quarter of 2015, it would be unacceptable.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Is it not worse that for 2015 the Department does not have the up-to-date management figures to oversee a budget of between €3 billion and €4 billion? That just is not good enough. How much treated water was lost? Has that figure reduced or increased in recent years?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: That is worse than the figures we read previously. What is the cost of that loss?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: We are losing half of that.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: What is the cost per unit?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: What is the production cost per unit? Is it per litre?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Historically, what figure would the Department have used for that? It was assessed previously either by the Comptroller and Auditor General or the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Will Ms Graham forward to the committee her best figure for the loss of half of the 1.7 million litres at some stage?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: I have a number of questions about land for housing and so on. There was an issue with a site in County Leitrim. It was the subject of a report on "Prime Time". What was the result of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: What was the cost to the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Am I right that the site was to be made available for social housing?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Did the Department give €500,000 to the group that was developing it?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: When giving the money to the group, did the Department conduct an analysis of the requirement for social housing in that area or the condition of the site? Does it normally examine those aspects of an application before it determines that it is worth giving a voluntary body such money? Was there a site visit?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Is it not a fact that the site was not suitable? Was that not one of the reasons?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Let us be honest about it. Anybody looking at it would know it was an unsuitable site. Did the Department actually inspect the site?

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: The half a million euro-----

Public Accounts Committee: Vote 25 - Department of the Environment, Community and Local Government
Chapter 6 - Land Aggregation Scheme
Chapter 7 - Matters Arising from Audit of Vote 25 - Environment, Community and Local Government in Relation to Water Services
(5 Feb 2015)

John McGuinness: Where is the half a million euro now? It is gone.

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