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Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: I asked Mr. Lynch if there were any further side letters in relation to that deal and he said "No". What letter am I missing in that? I apologise to the Deputy.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: But there is a letter from Mr. Kelly relating to-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: We get that.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: This is where it will be very interesting-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: Who signed the two payments that went to Mr. Kelly? Obviously a cheque was cut or a payment was made in some electronic format. Who signed that?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: It was approved by just one signature?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (5 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: That just required one signatory or one person to authorise. Is that correct?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: It is a reasonable proposal not to read them again. I think everybody watched the meeting this morning.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: I thank the witnesses and recognise that they are here of their own free will. I am here to try to hold RTÉ to account. I welcome them as witnesses. I am not here to hold them to account. They are separate to what the committee is trying to do. The big issue for us about RTÉ in recent weeks is the view expressed eventually by the chair of the RTÉ board that there was an...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: Could Mr. Kelly identify for us, recognising the privilege that applies here-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: I want to move it on. I am sorry to rush Mr. Kelly but I do not want to upset the Chair. Mr. Kelly has heard this from others but last week Ms O'Keeffe said that things were stalled, RTÉ had to try to get a deal and this notion of a commercial deal was added in. Mr. Kelly was doing the best he could for his client, which is understandable. I do not want to be critical and I want to...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: If I could get Mr. Kelly-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: Just on this issue-----

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: Is that where the commercial thing came in? It was not a side deal but a commercial deal. Did that emanate from discussions between Mr. Kelly and Jim Jennings?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: Geraldine O'Leary was clear last week. She was the commercial director and somebody came to her and asked her to find somebody to make this possible. She indicated afterwards that, notwithstanding her efforts, it became cost neutral to Renault. I want to go back to this. Did that idea come from the discussion between Mr. Kelly and Jim Jennings?

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: Where does Mr. Kelly think it came from? He said earlier that it kind of came from RTÉ.

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: I get that but it stretches things given everything we have heard. It goes back to the point that Deputy Cannon raised which is that point 2.3(g) in the Grant Thornton report makes it clear. I have listened intently to what Mr. Kelly has said. He has talked about underwriting and explained that. In regard to all the emails Mr. Kelly sent to RTÉ, if I was looking for an agent I would...

Joint Committee on Tourism, Culture, Arts, Sport And Media: Transparency of RTÉ Expenditure of Public Funds and Governance Issues: Discussion (Resumed) (11 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: You would be looking for somebody who could generate more money than I might. Mr. Kelly also stitches in the word "guarantee". Mr. Kelly talks about underwriting and guaranteeing and when he goes into the Grant Thornton report, at 2.3(g), it also talks about Mr. Kelly's understanding of what would happen in the event of the sponsor going away or moving somewhere. It states: "The...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: I thank the Minister of State very much. He and his delegates are very welcome. As he identified, there are very important opportunities for this country and it is appropriate that our transport network and systems are in a position to serve those opportunities. The ones which follow on from what my colleague, Senator Doherty, talked about are the opportunities not just around aviation but...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Decarbonisation Strategy for Aviation and Shipping Sectors: Minister of State at the Department of Transport (12 Jul 2023)

Timmy Dooley: It is all local, a Leas-Chathaoirligh.

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