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Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: It must be the Christmas season because I am very indulgent. Senator Ó Domhnaill is anxious to conclude on the issue.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: Yes.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: To be fair to everyone, Senator Mullen is reminded that he must formally second the amendment.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: On a point of procedure, if Senator Ó Domhnaill's amendment is not formally seconded, it falls.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: That is not a point of order. Sometimes the enthusiasm of people who oppose Senator Mullen for whatever reason encourages him to expand his theories or views. I will chastise Senator Mullen in a fair way but I would like to allow him to conclude his point. He should not be interrupted. Members may not agree with his point but he is entitled to make it.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: Point noted.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: In fairness, Senator Mullen should be very careful not to name any person who is not in the House and draw him or her into this debate. If the person writes professionally, that is a matter for him or her. I would be careful there.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: I understand the point.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: I have noted that the Minister will be very capable of answering the points being made so I ask the Members to allow the Minister to respond when he arrives in the next couple of minutes.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: I do not think that has anything to do with the current topic. Senator Mullen is starting to meander slightly, like the colleague I admonished earlier. I am trying to be fair but Senator Mullen should not draw me into making a decision he may not like.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: Does Senator Ruane wish to contribute at this point?

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: Does Senator Humphreys wish to contribute at this point?

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: Senator Ó Domhnaill, do not use issues that attract attention. You should be careful in what your say.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: Minister, have you anything further to add.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: Will the Senators claiming a division please rise?

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: As fewer than five Members have risen, I declare the question defeated. In accordance with Standing Order 61, the names of the Senators dissenting will be recorded in the Journal of the Proceedings of the Seanad.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: Amendments Nos. 4 to 6, inclusive, 8, 9, 21 and 22 are related and may be discussed together, by agreement. Amendment No. 5 is a logical alternative to amendment No. 4 and amendment No. 6 is a logical alternative to amendment No. 5.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: Is the amendment being pressed?

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: The Senator cannot speak on the amendment. It has already been discussed.

Seanad: Health (Regulation of Termination of Pregnancy) Bill 2018: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2018)

Denis O'Donovan: I have to be very fair today. I cannot allow people to come back in. I allowed Senator Higgins question the Minister.

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