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Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: It does not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Can I make a point of order, Chair? It is very dangerous for our guest to say that the gardaí were embarrassed. How would he know that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: It is a very reckless thing to say, unless he has an inside track with the Garda Síochána.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I welcome the guests. The IFPA received €360,000 from Irish Aid over the period 2016 to 2018 for a project in Bolivia named 'Promoting the sexual and reproductive health of youth in Bolivia'. The three partners in this project are the IFPA, the Centro de Investigación, Educación y Servicios, CIES, which is a Spanish or Portuguese organisation, and International Planned...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No it does not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: It does not. That is the witness's definite answer. The IFPA provides a secretariat for all-party Oireachtas interest groups on the sexual and reproductive health rights, SRHR. In an email to Irish Aid, on 4 May 2016, a Ms Maeve Taylor, a senior policy and advocacy officer of the IFPA stated that they prepared-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Please, I would appreciate it. They prepared a briefing on the work of the CIES for the all-party Oireachtas interest group on SRHR. That is a nice sidetrack for the IFPA. Is any of the Irish Aid grant aid being used for this form of advocacy and campaigning, that is the secretarial services for Oireachtas members? Not the secretariat here, the secretariat of the IFPA and other agencies,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: We are 100% certain on that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: It is interesting to see this secretariat idea now being expanded by the National Women's Council of Ireland being the secretariat for the Oireachtas Women's Caucus that includes Ministers, Deputies Fitzgerald, Zappone and Mitchell O'Connor. Transparency I think here has been blurred and the lobbying Act may have been evaded too. I believe it was a crafty process. It was not-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I am just wondering about it. I have just asked a question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: They are in representing the IFPA so I am asking the question. Please chair. I am not accusing the Chair today of being biased but let me ask the questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No, I am just referring to activities that they are carrying out and the secretariat work they are providing for other people.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: No. They are Ministers and I refer to the work carried out by this secretariat, not the one here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I can see for myself what it is. It is a scary area of maybe not being transparent and having transparency and distance among the IFPA and these caucus groups.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Sorry for interrupting. This is unacceptable and it is happening all the time. Giggles, laughing and scoffing and it is totally unacceptable. What-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I appreciate that. However, something has to be done about it. People watching at home can see what is going on. It is a cabal and it is unacceptable and it is happening all the time. The Chair earlier interrupted because I could not hear when there was noise and talk, and she asked for-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I will admit it, yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: We need respect, especially from the Gallery. It is not a Gallery show.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I will and I thank the Chair. I am sorry, the witness was answering.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Socioeconomic Context: Dr. Caitriona Henchion and Mr. Niall Behan, Irish Family Planning Association (15 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Look at it. I am going to leave because it is useless.

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