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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: There are commercial State bodies outside of that. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Does the Comptroller and Auditor General audit those bodies?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Okay. Just one of the seven commercial State bodies that are highlighted receives funding from the Department of Communications, Climate Action and Environment. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: That would be RTÉ.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: The document says "nil" in that respect. I am looking at the-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Is the €179 million paid to RTÉ audited by Mr. McCarthy's office?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Why not?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Why is it not within Mr. McCarthy's remit? I am trying to understand the logic of that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Is the €179 million part of the €439 million?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: In percentage terms, how much of the Department's funding is not under the remit of the Comptroller and Auditor General?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Maybe I will put my question a different way.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: For clarification purposes, is Mr. Griffin accountable to the Committee of Public Accounts as Accounting Officer for that €179 million?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: That is a start. I have questions on it. Do we have a breakdown on what that money is spent on? What specifically is that €179 million spent on?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Do we have a breakdown of what that money is actually spent on?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Griffin is accountable to us for money that is spent. I am asking him about a big chunk, amounting to €179 million, to RTÉ, which is approximately 40% of the overall gross expenditure. He is here to account for the spend of money and expenditure from the Department. I am asking a question on what specifically that €179 million is spent on.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Some of the €179 million goes towards the pay of staff.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Is Mr. Griffin aware that some of those more highly paid people in RTÉ, and in particular broadcasters, operate a system whereby they create companies and those companies are more often than not named after themselves? We had a similar issue regarding the health sector, where hospital consultants were using a similar system. They can set up a company of which they are directors. They...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 29 - Communications, Climate Action and Environment
(9 Nov 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. McCarthy did a report on the health sector where he looked at hospital consultants.

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