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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: There is a statutory basis for how an area becomes a rent pressure zone that is outside of my control. It is outside of my control-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: There are qualifying criteria under two separate-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Right. That was decided by law and passed by the Oireachtas, not the Department. That determines how areas become rent pressure zones.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Yes, and there was probably a very good reason it is not in the power of a Minister to grant favours to particular areas and not to others. I will now refer to the mortgage to rent, MTR, numbers. Some 318 MTR cases have been completed to date. There are 671 in process at the moment. There has been a review of mortgage to rent, which has streamlined the process. We made an additional...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank Deputy Casey for his questions. The Deputy's first question related to the mis-categorisation and re-categorisation of the homeless that took place as a result of the March figures, it was a judgment call but I am quite convinced that had I gone out into the public and given a number that I knew was not correct, that would have been the wrong thing to do. I do not like to give...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It is in the excel format on the data.gov website.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Obviously, if members find it easier to work on excel, it is something that we will deal with. The 59 week process was only something that I commenced when I came into office so it would not have been in place by the time the third quarter report was published for schemes that are detailed in that report. The local authorities took a decision on acquisitions and have two criteria for...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I did not intend in any way to make a damning statement about the local authority. My statement was directed at Fianna Fáil as a former party in government. That is-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It was an anecdote. The Deputy can check it against my figures.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: It proves the point that I continue to make that we should speak to accurate data, facts and figures and I used an anecdote that I heard while I was on a construction site.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank the Deputy for his questions. With regard to the homeless issue, if I had released the March report without being upfront about the incorrect categorisation, I would have misled the public and, therefore, I had to be upfront about that at the time. I will always be honest in this job because it is important that we all are as politicians. That can be uncomfortable for some at times...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: We are getting this information in and we are working with local authorities to find additional solutions. Anyone who goes into self-accommodation in a hotel or a bed and breakfast is counted as being in emergency accommodation. The DRHE has a contingency in place for the summer months because additional pressures will be placed on the city, in particular, because of concerts and events...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: There is always a place and we can always find a place------

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I recognise that there is a problem with the way that system operates and that we can improve it. How it has operated for certain families is not acceptable. Although I have not seen the report, my understanding is recommendations are on the way in this area. Regarding the rapid build issue, there is no problem with the number of firms or the capacity of the industry to build homes. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thank Deputy Boyd Barrett for his questions. There is no bureaucratic manipulation going on here. The Deputy referenced Stalin. Historically, it is the hard left that have been the ones who have been good at manipulation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I thought you were Trotskyites.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: Sorry. I beg your pardon.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: I think propaganda as a term was invented-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: -----by the Communists. It is not a question of targets I have set for myself. The only target is to try to get everyone out of emergency accommodation into safe, sustainable homes. That is an ambition we all share. When it comes to the individual cases the Deputy presents, that is the point in one regard as to why this is more difficult than people anticipate or understand. Individual...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Rebuilding Ireland - Action Plan for Housing and Homelessness: Discussion (17 May 2018)

Eoghan Murphy: We have spoken about certain instances where they refused not just one home but two homes because as they were in a hotel they have roots in that community. Those are the difficulties we encounter and those are the ones we are trying to work through.

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