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Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: The professor's comments are interesting. I respect totally his professionalism but was he being flippant with his comments about mental health because we had a witness in last week who said that every man, woman and child's mental health was affected by the amendment? Can I assume Dr. McCarthy was being flippant when he referred to mental health and marriage? Was the witness just being...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I do not scoff and laugh at anybody else. It is totally ignorant.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: It is ignorant and disparaging.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I did not make a joke. I would like to continue without the sideshows and the ignorant comments please.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: This is why the committee is such a charade. I do not interrupt anyone. It is a total charade. I am on several committees in this House and none of them behaves in this way. None of them. I am in and out of the finance committee all day.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I did ask. I asked if the witness was being flippant.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I was just clarifying but people think it is very funny. I am clarifying that he mentioned marriage having a bad effect on mental health. Maybe it has some certainly but not in the vast majority of married couples in this country.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: The witness was being flippant.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: From where is that evidence? Will Dr. McCarthy clarify from where he got it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: It has been given. From where did Dr. McCarthy get it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I do not find it interesting; I find it strange.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I find it a bit bizarre.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I did because-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: That is why I am surprised-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: With respect, I asked Dr. McCarthy to clarify whether he was being flippant. He has now said he was. This is not a matter on which to be very flippant.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Risks to Mental Health: Dr. Anthony McCarthy, National Maternity Hospital, Holles Street (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I am one of those.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I will table a motion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: If this is not intimidation, I do not know what is. May I speak, please?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: I indicated that I wished to speak. We are not disrespecting the Chair's ruling. We waited all day for her to obtain advice, which is fair enough and which we accept, but for her to take umbrage at us questioning the reasons behind-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution: Business of Joint Committee (8 Nov 2017)

Mattie McGrath: Yes, you are.

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