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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Maybe Mr. Hughes brought it the whole way from Brussels.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Is that all the delays added up?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Is there an average time?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: We did not really see it here. People travelling saw it at the other end.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: That is a problem.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: How do they get away with that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Somebody has to let them take off and land.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: So it is up to each of the 37 ANSPs to rigidly not let people have the flexibility.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: It should not be a case of an individual pilot seeing what suits him or her.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: But he or she is not too concerned about anyone else.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Out of how many slots a day?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: That is significant; it is 4% or 5%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I will let Deputy Farrell in in a minute. We might park the drones issue, which we will also talk about, for now. Who is the leader who can make the change? Is it Eurocontrol? Is it the Commission? Eurocontrol represents 41 states and 37 air navigation service providers, ANSPs, many of which are not in the EU and may not be beholden to the EU as such but equally have signed up to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: We will not say in the sense of a ringmaster in a circus.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: We will not use that analogy. On ATC strikes, Michael O'Leary has been vociferous about French air traffic control. I think he has been very vociferous about the head of the ANSP in Britain, saying that he should resign and various things.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: What are Mr. Hughes's thoughts on the fact that France has legislation which protects domestic flights from ATC problems, even though it is moving away from domestic flights anyway? Domestic flights are protected but overflights are not, which affects us even if we are going to Greece, Spain or Italy; if we go over France, we are in trouble. Is there a way out of that? Can we have a single...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Maybe there is not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I am sure that is unparliamentary language.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Aviation Trends, Air Traffic Control and Drone Activity: Discussion (18 Sep 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Teetering on the edge, I think.

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