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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: Removal is one thing, but the permitted destruction of an archaeological object is another. Should there not be some guidance, if not necessarily in primary legislation? In fact, regulations may be more appropriate because they can be adapted to deal with specific circumstances that may arise and may not have been considered previously.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 8: In page 19, to delete lines 13 and 14 and substitute the following: “ “archaeological heritage” shall include structures, constructions, groups of buildings, developed sites, moveable objects, monuments of other kinds, as well as their context, whether situated on land or under water;”. I will speak to amendments Nos. 8 to 10,...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I apologise; I forgot to speak to amendment No. 12. This proposed amendment is pretty straightforward. It seeks to expand the existing definition of "archaeological heritage" to include the words "and surrounding contexts". We have a concern that the current definition could be interpreted as limiting archaeological heritage to settings and attendant grounds, the property or grounds...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: The purpose of this amendment, which seeks to insert "historical, linguistic or cultural, including intangible culture", is to allow the Minister of State to prescribe things of historical, linguistic or cultural interest as relevant things to be prescribed as monuments, should it be so chosen. There is a concern regarding the meaning of "other interest", as is currently in the text. I know...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: No, I will withdraw it.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: Could the Minister of the State explain it for us?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I have two concerns with that. First, the Office of the Ombudsman is not a place where people go to make complaints about substantive issues; it is a place where people go to make complaints about procedures not being adequately or equitably adhered to with respect to public bodies. It does not at all deal with the substance of the matter. Across a variety of public and private services,...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: With respect to the cumulative impact of amendments Nos. 13, 18 and 22, there is the removal of artistic and traditional interest for the definition of "architectural heritage". There is then the insertion of cultural interest, including artistic, literary and traditional interest and the removal of artistic, historical and traditional, and their substitution with "historic". I am unclear...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: Okay. Let us not confuse the two.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: In the context of his response to amendment No. 8, will the Minister of State indicate whether he is absolutely satisfied that in the broadening of the definition in the Bill from Article 1 of the Valletta Convention, nothing has been lost in the desire to expand and be more inclusive and that there will not be any unintended consequences to which we may have to return at a later stage? In...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 9: In page 19, between lines 14 and 15, to insert the following: “ “archaeological interest” means objects, sites, structures and other items associated with historic and cultural heritage;”.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 10: In page 19, line 30, to delete “or person” and substitute “, period, person, subject or theme”.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 12: In page 20, line 5, after “fittings,” to insert “and surrounding contexts,”. I am happy to withdraw it. I hope the Minister of State will look at it between now and Report Stage. We may bring an amendment back at that point.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: A Chathaoirligh, I have just got notification from Deputy Gould he will not be returning. Is that sufficient?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 14: In page 20, to delete line 14 and substitute the following: “ “Bord” means Bord Ard-Mhusaem na hÉireann;”. These five amendments all relate to the use of Irish rather than English. Amendment No. 14 relates to the Irish for the board of the National Museum of Ireland, amendment No. 16 to the Commissioner of Public Works in Ireland...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: There are three separate issues. I do not understand the drafting and legal problems that would be created by using the official Irish name of a State agency in the English-language version of a Bill, given in the legislation underpinning those agencies both the Irish- and English-language titles are provided for. The point here is more important than that. There has been a long-standing...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: No, I will withdraw it but may return to it on Report Stage.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Historic and Archaeological Heritage Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Jun 2023)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 15: In page 20, to delete lines 21 and 22.

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