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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: I will take the last question first. I always subscribe to the view that if people expect a service, they must have a tax clearance certificate for any goods and services supplied. That is the way it will be. I do not expect 72% of the people who pay charges will expect the other 28% to be carried by them. I hope the Deputy supports me in that, as his party is doing in Northern Ireland. ...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: Not unless Enterprise Ireland wants to cut its staff, but we have no such plans. I have heard nothing to suggest that would be the case.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: Enterprise Ireland will have the budget, policy and staff. They will be seconded into local government for the purpose of delivering the suite of services they are now offering.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: Not unless the Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation has particular problems with his budget. I cannot second guess what his budgetary issues are, but I have no such plans whatsoever. It is not my direct role to decide the budget concerning what will happen on the LEOs. I am facilitating the space.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: I can understand how any Leader group or community organisation would be concerned about its future because there are a number of well-paid people in such organisations. In Galway, for example, Comhairle Ceantar na nOileán Teo. has five staff, and the CEO is paid €53,000. The CEO of Forum Connemara is paid €84,000. The total number of staff is 17, of which the rural...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: It could be at the lower end, but it has a low budget. In proportion to their budget, one can see that the level of administrative costs associated with these particular entities is unacceptable. I want to protect the delivery of front-line services to these particular areas, but I will certainly not countenance setting up a structure that will gobble up an enormous amount of money in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: I know that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: I know the Minister of the day was very anxious that he would have another structure. He certainly had four structures in his own areas, so fair play to him.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: You have Údarás na Gaeltachta as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: I do not know how many other structures are needed to deliver a programme in Connemara.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: Given the finances we are likely to have, I do not think that is a luxury we can afford. I agree with the Deputy, however, that a strong urban centre is essential for stronger rural areas. There is a magnet in Galway city, but the challenge is to get people beyond that. That is where the programmes are needed. There have been a lot of rural development programmes in the Deputy's area and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: Deputy Kyne should not be in any way taken in by some of the propaganda that has been put about. These moneys, which have been allocated through whatever sources from the European Union, are ring-fenced for the purposes for which they are allocated. I want the moneys allocated to go to the development of projects for the people and not on the establishment of structures.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: In response to Senator Quinn and as I noted in my opening remarks, I am trying to create a culture of independence rather than dependence and all the State can do is to facilitate this. It is doing so through a plethora of organisations, of which there are too many. While organisations such as Enterprise Ireland often extol the virtues of enterprise boards, they do not have the requisite...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: As politicians, we are conscious of the fact that there has been a considerable democratic deficit in some of the work that has been going on. I subscribe to the view that people who go out and get elected for a particular purpose, in rural or urban areas, should have an input into any activities, supports and projects that are under way in their area. They should be part of the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: I thank Senator Cullinane for his remarks on CEDRA. It is an opportunity for people to get together and examine the main issues on which we should concentrate in the next round of rural development funding. Multi-agency buy-in is important. That is the principle behind what we are trying to do. Some believe that when one seeks buy-in from agencies, someone must give way. I do not look...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: I am talking about hospitals.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: Did Sinn Féin not-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: Did Sinn Féin not table a motion in Wexford Borough Council to find out where the money was gone? Senator Cullinane cannot have it every way.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: I welcome Senator Cullinane’s interest in the south east, not just Waterford. Deputy Áine Collins referred to the elimination of duplication and LEOs. I share her sentiments. I am aware of her document on mentoring. I have asked a number of people to examine it to ascertain what we can do. In the previous round of funding, training under the rural development programme...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation: Rural Communities Report: Discussion with Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government (12 Feb 2013)

Phil Hogan: There is a meeting in Longford on Monday night, if that is of any use to Deputy Penrose. Senator Kelly and Deputy Penrose both covered the range of problems we have in rural towns and villages, particularly for small shopkeepers. We identified that very early on and in line with the Planning Development Act, we got on with the work of developing the core strategy areas in every town to stop...

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