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Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: Yes. As I said, I have visited prisons and there is a lot of excellent work going on in them. I do not know whether the Deputy has visited them. I am sure he has been into them. There is a lot of excellent work being done in terms of education and counselling. Obviously, it is all dependent on the services being there, but there is a lot of good work being done there.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I always listen to what the Deputy says and I appreciate his comments. However, I recall about two months ago when I announced the international protection Bill was being brought in and we were going to expedite the process to three months, he said that was cruel. We cannot have it that expediting it to three months is cruel and that it is cruel to leave people for a long period. The...

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I am not taking it away.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I am not taking away the oral appeal, by the way; I am restricting it.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I thank the Deputy. Regrettably, she is right. Unfortunately, younger children are getting involved in crime. Forcing a child to get involved in criminal activity at a very young age is, in itself, a form of child abuse. The Deputy is talking about funding community projects that will try to deter people from getting involved in criminal activity at a young age. Lots of excellent work is...

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I agree.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I hope I have not been too frank.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: Yes.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I take on board what the Chair said about parliamentary questions. I am happy to answer the questions asked here. I will reflect on what he said and I will mention it. On the Garda Síochána, I am not going to go back and forth with the Chair here today on it. It is a challenging thing to do. The funding is in place for 1,000 recruits a year and I am committed to trying to get...

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: They are just officials in the Department.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: Yes.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: Okay.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I am the person responsible and accountable for it. If the Chair has issues of concern, he should write to me about them. I am concerned about setting up reviews of work I am responsible for. If the Chair has issues with applications made, he should write to me. I will raise them in the Department and try to give him a response. That is all I can say.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: The general situation is that fund gets fairly exhausted early in the year. If an award is made to people under the criminal injuries compensation tribunal and no money is available that year, they will get it fairly promptly the next year. It is a scheme that needs to be reformed and put on a statutory basis. There is also a series of references to the CJEU in respect of how the scheme...

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: Yes, of course.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: We can give people an interim payment.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I am told that does happen. With large awards, there will be an interim payment.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: Yes, but I want to be realistic with the Chair and the committee. I am trying to get a lot of legislation done and the criminal injuries compensation tribunal is one aspect of this, but I cannot give a guarantee it is going to be done this year or next year. A Law Reform Commission report will be coming out in respect of the scheme. It generally produces a Bill at the back of it. I will...

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I ask the committee to give me a bit of notice. Obviously, I have a very tight schedule between now and the end of the Dáil term. I am just being frank with the Chair. I do not want to be saying something that cannot happen. I have no difficulty coming here, but it may have to wait until September or October.

Select Committee on Justice, Home Affairs and Migration: Estimates for Public Services 2025
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána (Revised)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Revised)
Vote 22 - Courts Service (Revised)
Vote 44 - Data Protection Commission (Revised)
Vote 24 - Justice (Further Revised)
(24 Jun 2025)

Jim O'Callaghan: I am trying to stop that.

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