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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: Are the minutes agreed? Agreed. Are there any matters arising from the minutes? No. We will now deal with correspondence from Accounting Officers and Ministers. No. 3A.1 is correspondence dated 3 December from Mr. Tom Moran, Secretary General, Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine, which is a follow-up to the committee's meeting on 16 October 2014, to be noted and published. I...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: No. 3B.1 is correspondence dated 4 December from Mr. Seán Ó Foghlú, Secretary General of the Department of Education and Skills, re issues between UCC and Midland Construction. This is to be noted. Did Deputy Deasy raise this matter?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: Due to the fact that there is pending legislation, perhaps its spirit should be cognisant of this case.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: In line with the spirit of that legislation, perhaps we could ask the Department or whoever to re-examine the matter.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: No. 3B.2 is correspondence from Mr. William Treacy. This is an ongoing matter of which members are aware. The correspondence is to be noted. Moving on to correspondence relevant to today's meeting, correspondence received 5 December from Mr. John Doyle, CEO of ReBo, re briefing statement is to be noted and published. No. 3C.2 is correspondence from the Central Bank re briefing statement...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: It was an item of correspondence.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: And Enterprise Ireland.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: Are there other comments on the work programme?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: We agreed at the meeting to do a number of things, one of which was to send a transcript, which I understand we did. Perhaps we should wait for a response, if there is to be one.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: Mr. Ryan. We had an exchange with Revenue on the matter. Where we go from here as regards Mr. Ryan is a matter for the committee, but we must wait for a response from him, if there is to be one. To date, we have had no contact whatsoever.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: Is that okay?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: We can revert to the issue next week and see what has happened. In terms of the work programme, another week has gone by without a response from the Department of Education and Skills regarding the issues raised about the Cork Institute of Technology, CIT. Deputy Connaughton referred to the response from Bord na gCon. We should put both bodies on notice to the effect that, if we do not...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: We want to open the hearing with NAMA. One can hear the case before or after that. I am not recommending to the members someone who is not credible. The woman and the family have a very credible story to tell and it gives an insight into how NAMA conducts its business. It is important for the country and people dealing with NAMA that they understand how this is happening. If we can hear...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: Next week we are to hear from NAMA.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: NAMA is not due to appear again for a while after next week. Our work programme is fairly full.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: We have to be careful about this. I have spoken to the woman at length and I would not suggest the meeting to the committee if it were the wrong thing to do. If the lady wants to represent her family and put her case to the committee, she should be asked to do so. She is not making any direct allegations or naming people; she simply wants to explain the impact on her family, her farm and...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: I am working on the basis that when we dealt with procurement here, it was agreed the relevant group would be brought before the committee. It was unanimously agreed. We took a step in the direction of Sergeant Maurice McCabe and it was uncharted territory. We would not have had the information given to us as clearly if we had taken any other route or if we had not intervened. The story...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (11 Dec 2014)

John McGuinness: Okay. We can discuss this with the individual concerned and find out how she feels about it. We can proceed from there.

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