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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: In the context of the question, that does not relate to Irish waters.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: It is from northern Scotland down to Brittany.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: It is approximately 22% by tonnage. By value, it varies but it is approximately the same.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: What we might consider that Irish waters are approximately 10% of the overall EU waters.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: For clarification, EU waters consist of the Baltic Sea, the North Sea, the Bay of Biscay, the Mediterranean Sea, the Adriatic Sea and the Black Sea. We have approximately 10% of that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: We do not have that figure but if we can collate the information, we will come back to the Deputy.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: Any figures we have or can usefully extract and collate we will bring to the committee.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: Seventeen per cent. I want to come back to some other points that were raised. In respect of the Sea-Fisheries (Amendment) Bill, the most important point to remember is that the purpose of that legislation was just to reinstate what had previously existed, not in law but in practice, for many years. In terms of the rationale behind that legislation, Senator Mac Lochlainn talked about...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: The Deputy has a picture in his mind's eye of what the fishing industry was like quite a while ago, but as a consequence of membership of the European Union - free movement of goods, services, etc. - that picture is far different today. In terms of what we had under voisinage, if people met the requirements to register their boat here, and we are not all in agreement about the image the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: Given his party's particular approach to all-island matters, I thought it was a definition that might meet with his approval, but obviously not. I felt it was the right thing to do for those reasons. However, in the context of the Brexit negotiations, why would we gratuitously offend our nearest neighbour by not restoring what had existed in practice for many years? I admit we have to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: I have spoken with Michael Gove, the newly-appointed Secretary of State. I hope to have a meeting with him in the not too distant future to discuss all of these matters in greater detail. In a brief telephone conversation, I raised with him our concerns that long-established fishing patterns would fall victim to the approach they are pursuing in the context of Brexit. Whereas it is fair to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: I have had a series of bilateral meetings with the Dutch, the Germans, the Danes, the Belgians, the French, the Spanish and practically every member state with a fishing interest that is equally adversely impacted by this. My officials have been in contact with all the officials in those member states, and the fishing industry alliance mirrors what is happening at a political and technical...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: I thank Deputy Penrose and Senator Lombard. The UK can withdraw from the London Fisheries Convention in two years. I share the analysis that it will be much longer withdrawing from the European Union but from the notification date, it can be gone from the London Fisheries Convention in two years. This is further complicated, in a way that baffles us legally somewhat, in so far that the UK...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: I would still argue that the rationale to reinstate the voisinagearrangements, which have been in practice without a legal basis, has merit that is worth reflecting on in respect of all-island established fishing patterns. We will have to reflect on where all that fits into in the context of Brexit negotiations. Have no doubt that there are casualties to not proceeding with the arrangement...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: If the UK leaves the European Union, those people will not look to register in Northern Ireland.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: Deputy Kenny accurately summarised the situation. This is extraordinarily complex. If one stands back from the complexity for a moment and considers if one were starting with a blank sheet of paper, which we are not, would it be desirable to have a situation where we had reciprocal arrangements between the North and South? It is interesting to consider the Supreme Court ruling. Mr....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: The state aid rules are there. We are conscious that we are exposed in that regard under Brexit and we are negotiating the best possible outcome. They may become issues to be addressed at a critical stage. There are certainly issues that we are addressing now in the broader agrifood area.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: I know it.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: We did pull some hen's teeth in Mayo with the allocations that we made in both the first and second rounds. The Department owns the six major fishing piers. That is our primary area of responsibility. We have a modest fund for assisting local authorities which are responsible for the other piers, from which we have made allocations. I think it is capped at €150,000.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: London Fisheries Convention: Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine (11 Jul 2017)

Michael Creed: The matter of the road is one between local authority and the OPW which has responsibility for coastal erosion. It is not a matter for my Department.

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