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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: I wish to make a proposal from this meeting with my Oireachtas colleagues. I propose that Ms Keogh brings back to her board a proposal from me to postpone the decision for a period to allow us to negotiate with the Government and not close the facility in that regard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: Ms Keogh commented on a proposal sent from me. I would send it in writing.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: I am making the proposal through the committee that the decision be postponed. I want support from my colleagues. I presume it will be forthcoming.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: That is fair enough. Now, there is no immediate danger in this building.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: I am asking the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: I cannot put it because I am not a member.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: From my knowledge of the building - I was there recently - there is no immediate danger or health and safety issue in that building. Has the fire officer in Roscommon condemned the building? Has he actually made a statement? Has he been there?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: Will the IWA hold an emergency general meeting to consider the situation arising from the proposal to close Cuisle? That would allow for proper democratic consultation with the members of the association, something that has not occurred.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: How many?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: If the EGM decides to hold Cuisle open, will the IWA have to accept that decision?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: Finally, I wish to make something quite clear. Under no circumstances, after 40 years in public life, have I ever been accused of intimidating anyone on the telephone or in person. I was three times a Minister. I never lost a staff member in those three Ministries. No complaint was ever made and I never sacked anyone in my Ministries. I find it quite abhorrent. My daughter is here today...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: I am in order now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: The question was that I will not accept what Ms Keogh has said. If I offended anyone I would withdraw that offence.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: I am surprised to hear that Ms Keogh as chief executive officer has to consult solicitors to call an EGM of the IWA. I understand that members have already sent a request and that questions have been asked about their motivations in that regard.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: I thank Ms Keogh for her response. In regard to the motion being forwarded by this Oireachtas Joint Committee of elected representatives of Dáil Éireann and Seanad Éireann from around the country, will Ms Keogh defy that proposal? By way of clarification, when I rang the offices of the IWA I had no knowledge of whether the receptionist was in a wheelchair. I treat people...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: I want to make the point that-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: I am sorry but Ms Keogh does not have parliamentary privilege here: I do.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: The Chairman allowed Ms Keogh to speak outside of her remit and make allegations about-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: I am making my point. I treat people the same. I did not know if the person I was contacting in the IWA was in a wheelchair, or not. I treat people the same. That is my style.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Proposed Closure of Cuisle Accessible Holiday and Respite Care Resort: Discussion (21 Nov 2019)

Terry Leyden: Will Ms Keogh recommend it?

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