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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Horse Racing in Ireland and the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board's Anti-doping Programme: Discussion (1 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: I ask the witnesses to come back to us on the two specific cases I talked about and let us know what action, if any, was taken. They are on the record of the previous meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Horse Racing in Ireland and the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board's Anti-doping Programme: Discussion (1 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: That is not the direction I am going in. I beg to differ on what Dr. Hillyer said because I was involved in a company years ago when we were convinced to put in an application for International Organization for Standardization certification. The way it was explained to me was if these systems were put in, and everybody worked to the system, the man from the moon could come down to see if it...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: I welcome the representatives from Ornua. This is not a topic in which I am as well versed as some of my colleagues, and that is why I sat back with interest to see how the thing evolved and developed. To be honest, I am little wiser and in no way reassured. I would hate to be in the shoes of the farmers mentioned by Deputies Fitzmaurice and Kehoe if they are watching the proceedings...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: Ornua has fixed prices with co-ops. Those in Ornua are business people, and very successful business people. Ornua has a fantastic model and while all of us here today are trying to be critical to an extent, we cannot be so without acknowledging the success story that Ornua is, and its profits are there for everybody to see. Naturally, I presume that when it is doing a fixed-price contract...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: I am a lifetime looking at contracts being broken. A contract is a contract until it is broken, as they say. It appears there is no way out of these fixed milk contracts for farmers. Hypothetically, if milk was at 20 cent a litre now and the prices of diesel and fertiliser came down as much as they have gone up and farmers were able to survive on that, has Ornua a clause to get out of a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: I reiterate what Deputy Fitzmaurice said. By virtue of the fact we are in wartime, is there not a way of looking at contracts again?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: For the record, and the Chairman asked it at the start, irrespective of what I think of the offer, Mr. Jordan told us that only 15% of Ornua's co-ops took the offer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: That is 25%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: Some 75% of the co-ops that are dealing with the farmers did not even accept that offer. Is that because they are in a stand-off with Ornua for a better offer or were they just not bothered?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: I presume Ornua is negotiating with them, and if there are negotiations ongoing I do not want to-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: Or they are not standing off for a better deal, they just do not want the deal.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: Therefore, there are co-ops that could not be bothered and have not taken up the offer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: Could it be milk that is going directly to the shelves in cartons and not being processed?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Fixed-Milk Price Contracts: Discussion (Resumed) (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: I second Deputy Fitzmaurice's proposal for a discussion about a private meeting.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ash Dieback and its Impact on the Private Forestry Sector: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: I welcome the witnesses and thank them for their update. The one thing they have confirmed is that nothing has changed since the last time they were here and nothing has improved. We, the witnesses and the Department were aware at the time that RUS was just a sticking plaster. When the witnesses were here before, while we all saw the seriousness and importance of the issue for them, we...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ash Dieback and its Impact on the Private Forestry Sector: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: They are not allowing you to go back to square one and to start again with a new-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ash Dieback and its Impact on the Private Forestry Sector: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: We have been talking about the reconstitution and replanting scheme. Mr. White is saying that the €1,000 will not remove what is there and then you are on your own to replant.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ash Dieback and its Impact on the Private Forestry Sector: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: They will replant it, but they will get no premium.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ash Dieback and its Impact on the Private Forestry Sector: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: You will not get any assistance to put it back into grass, as Mr. White has said.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Ash Dieback and its Impact on the Private Forestry Sector: Discussion (22 Jun 2022)

Paul Daly: As the scheme stands at the minute-----

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