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Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Which Act?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: I have never seen so many officials wash their hands of a problem child as publicly as I have this morning.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Would Mr. Kelly tell the Secretary General there is an anomaly here?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: That is the opinion of Mr. Moran. I was giving my opinion and I want to clarify something else. Mr. Moran said "as I am sure you will agree" in his opening remarks. For the record, I do not agree.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: As Deputy Deasy has finished, I will return to correspondence dated 8 October received from the Secretary General, Mr. Moran, this morning on a particular case in Killybegs, County Donegal. In this correspondence, Mr. Moran states that the Office of the Chief State Solicitor was instructed to initiate legal proceedings against the individual on 16 July 2014. What does Mr. Moran base this on?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Mr. Moran states that consequently the Chief State Solicitor's office was instructed to initiate legal proceedings against Mr. Shine, the man in question, on 16 July 2014. What is the process for that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Who gave the Department that legal advice?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Does the Department have a legal unit?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Is the senior lawyer a solicitor or a barrister?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Does that solicitor in the Department advise the Secretary General?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Would the Secretary General then instruct the solicitor to raise it with the Office of the Chief State Solicitor?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Did the Secretary General instruct the Office of the Chief State Solicitor to issue proceedings on 16 July 2014?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: What is the up-to-date position on that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: The Secretary General has not. He has told the Office of the Chief State Solicitor.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Will Mr. Moran tell me what stage the process is at now? Does he think that having told the Chief State Solicitor's office on 16 July to take legal proceedings that the office would have informed Mr. Shine of that?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Can you tell us or find out for us?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Will one of your officials ring your solicitor to ask about the position so we can find out where it is at? This matter has gone on for quite some time. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: Say that again.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: That was two years ago.

Public Accounts Committee: Special Report 82 of the Comptroller and Auditor General: Financial Management and Reporting for Fishery Harbour Centres (16 Oct 2014)

John McGuinness: I would like to know because at the end of every action someone is going to have to either fight the action, present a case or do whatever. In this case, it is a business, a family and an individual. I stand to be corrected on the matter - I am asking you to check it for me - but it is extraordinary that it seems, from the information I have, that no contact has been made since then. I...

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