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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: They have somebody there if they want to make a complaint so that they can do so through their own language-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: -----if they do not speak our native tongue, which is Irish but-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I see new a complaints procedure was introduced in 2015. There was supposed to be an appointment of somebody. Was that done? I know there is an ombudsman-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Has Mr. Waters seen a notable difference in the volume of complaints since the new system has come in?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: The Comptroller and Auditor General said there is a low level of complaints.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I am not suggesting for a second people are afraid to make a complaint, but one would not want that to be a barrier, that there is a fear there that would prohibit them in any way from making a complaint for fear they might be deported or anything like that. What are the criteria for deportation? I saw a figure of 9% or 7% and-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: -----some of them were deported after quite a number of years living here.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I note the figure that 4,075 people left the State voluntarily but there are no checks on this.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: It is a bit of an anomaly to be deported voluntarily. How does that actually-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: It is not really voluntarily.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Has the appeals process been expedited in any way over the years? It is easy to appeal and appeal again, and people are entitled to access to justice, but we do not want them unnecessarily delaying and then at the end being deported.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Abusing it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed)
(11 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: Have all of the sections of the Act commenced?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: I agree with everything the Deputies have said. Bord na gCon is coming in later and we have the issue of money spent in Limerick. Now we have a situation with the lease for Caranua. I have a sense of déjà vudiscussing these topics, which concerns me. Would the committee consider having a private meeting in which we set out how we are going to approach each of these questions...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: The main thing is that we do not want money spent unnecessarily when it is needed for the more urgent issues of redress.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: He had not spoken about it but I am sure-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: The difficulty is an opinion is usually written with a slant on whatever way the information is disseminated to the media. I do not know how we will control that. If we get the documentation while we are here in session, there would be no time to read it.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: That is a good idea. Was there mention before of practices within the banking inquiry? I was not here then.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: How was it managed?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2017)

Josepha Madigan: What do we do if the leaks continue? That is why I was asking about the banking inquiry. Should we not take an example from that and go down that course?

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