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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: Is there anything else Mr. O'Loughlin would like to add?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: I thank Mr. Hayes and his colleagues for coming before the committee. I also thank him for his comprehensive overview. The issue which was the source of greatest concern from an environmental perspective was the ongoing leakage of oil. Mr. Hayes has reiterated that it is readily biodegradable, but there seems to have been a suggestion that there was some level of mineral oil in the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: Mr. Mulvaney is comfortable that it is absolutely biodegradable, certified and tested to the standard identified.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: I assume the EPA will have a view on the matter when it completes its investigation. Does the ESB have an inventory of the SF6 gas it has in stock?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: Will Ms Quane provide the committee with an inventory of the SF6 gas the ESB has in stock? If she does not have it with her, she can forward it afterwards.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: That is what the gas is stored in.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: It is known exactly and there is a full log.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: If the EPA were in contact by telephone tomorrow, Ms Quane has access to a database of information with full details of exactly how much SF6 there is, where it is located, how it is stored and all of that information.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: I am not talking so much about the equipment as about the gas.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: To be clear, the ESB has absolute clarity concerning its inventory. It knows exactly how much of this gas it has in its ownership.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: That is a fair point and understandable. I do not want to hog all of the meeting. Mr. Hayes mentioned speaking up. That is important. He has had the benefit of hearing evidence that we received earlier. We do not want to talk about specifics in respect of any individuals. In the context of speaking up, however, in the case of someone leaving the company and having to sign certain...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: Is that clause in the agreement? Is there language to suggest that an individual would not communicate further with the relevant Minister in respect of issues of safety?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: That is okay. I understand. Sometimes context is everything. It is in a particular context, I assume.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: Mr. Hayes is not disputing that the clause is in the agreement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: In having this conversation-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: -----with Mr. Hayes, we have to be careful that we satisfied that there is not a potential for a culture to develop within the organisation that would silence, seek to silence or have the effect of silencing people who might otherwise be minded to speak up. I am sure Mr. Hayes would also want to address this issue from his perspective.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: On a final point, I would like to get some confidence concerning how a whistleblower might be treated. Based on what was captured in the programme, we might have some concerns that these issues were only addressed when they were escalated to the level of a protected disclosure. We would be concerned that an individual would have to go to those lengths in order to get the attention necessary...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: ESB Networks: Discussion (Resumed) (10 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: Does Mr. Hayes have some regrets then that it took an individual having to go to those extreme lengths to highlight the issue to which Mr. Hayes specifically referred in order for it to be addressed? Does he regret that the internal procedures were not better? I accept that the ESB is a big organisation and that a lot is going on. Surely, however, there are lessons to be learned from this...

Written Answers — Department of Defence: Climate Change Policy (11 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: 115. To ask the Taoiseach and Minister for Defence the recurring weekly meetings attended by either him or the Secretary General of his Department in 2019 at which climate change and-or preparations within his Department to enact a climate plan has been an agenda item; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [31338/19]

Written Answers — Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade: Climate Change Policy (11 Jul 2019)

Timmy Dooley: 153. To ask the Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade the recurring weekly meetings attended by either him or the Secretary General of his Department in 2019 at which climate change and-or preparations within his Department to enact a climate plan has been an agenda item; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [31342/19]

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