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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: It is not A or B. It is both.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Agreed. It is all very positive, but there is clearly a demand for even more progress and services for people all over the country.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: They were not really complaints as much as they were----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: There is a great appetite for information, though.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I do not think Cork and Limerick could have a shared mayor.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: We will have more queries from various councillors in Arklow and other places later. I thank Deputy Matthews. We move to the non-members of the committee who indicated to me earlier they would like to speak. I ask them to try to be as brief as possible to try to give everyone a chance. I call Deputy Pádraig O'Sullivan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Deputy O'Sullivan will not be the first, that is for sure.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I might give the Deputy a second round by the way.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Perhaps the Deputy will give the witnesses a chance to say something.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Are they the same thing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I am just watching the clock because I may have to go to vote and we will need to get somebody to chair. We will keep going for as long as we can. I also want to bring in Senator Garvey.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: There is usually a large mid-west contingent here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: The point is well made that if you build it, they will come. I live close to the Luas. When there was no Luas, people said no one would use it because no one was using it then. You put the thing in and it is like a magnet. It sucks people in and they are willing to walk because they know there is reliability. We generally hear a lot more about Shannon Airport in this committee than Knock...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I have noticed a lot of Clare connections today. I had a fair idea there was a Clare connection.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Child labour was obviously okay back then.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Senator Garvey. I may not get back in at the rate we are going because of voting, so I want to make again the point I made at the start by naming the councillors from right across the country who have raised issues. I am going to raise them with the witnesses so they can come back to me on them on an individual basis. I include an issue on which it would be great if Mr. Kenny...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: As it happens, several members of this committee, including me, were in Brussels and we got the train to the airport. Someone asked whether we should get a taxi and I said we should not because it would be slower. Even though the train happened to be delayed on the day, we were still at the airport much more quickly than we would have ever got there by taxi, particularly where there are...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Mr. Kenny might contribute on the Waterford rail line. The answer might be of benefit to Deputy Ó Cathasaigh before he contributes – I do not know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Maybe a sign could be put up stating one is not operational that there is another down the carriage. The Mayor of Waterford made a comment on the service. We have got it cleared up. I thank Mr. Kenny for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Capital Projects and Operations: Iarnród Éireann (24 Jan 2024)

Gerry Horkan: Witnesses should not criticise or make charges against any person or entity by name or in such a way as to make him, her or it identifiable. Mr. Meade should stop goading our visiting non-member.

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