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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: It is the minutes of the meeting. I got a copy of it from the secretariat earlier.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: It is dated 6 August 2015. It was a meeting that started at 11.15 a.m. and finished at 1.15 p.m.. I refer the Commissioner to page 3, which states "MC [which is Michael Culhane] said that he was shocked by what had just been said by [Ken Ruane] in that there was nothing complex or difficult about this issue and why would the issue have to be elevated to the Attorney Generals Office without...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Would the Commissioner be concerned that the head of the finance directorate would have been in open conflict with the head of legal? It is very clear from the minutes that they had very strong and differing opinions. He seemed to be very concerned that the matter could be referred to the Attorney General.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: When did the Commissioner take up her post?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: When did she first become aware of the irregularities at the training college?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: In July 2015, what action did she take?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: What did the Commissioner do specifically when she was made aware in July 2015 of irregularities at the Garda College? What action did she take?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: A working group?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Yes, it was a high-level working group. It was a steering group.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: These are the minutes of that working group or steering group?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: The Commissioner went through all that with Deputies previously. I am aware of that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Yes. There was, however, a steering group established and the minutes of that steering group meeting were up on the screen a moment ago. Is the Commissioner aware that the CAO chaired that meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: The note of the minutes of the meeting say, "The CAO noted that work has progressed on this matter for a number of years and the CAO pointed out that the group will consider whether external involvement is warranted but it is not required at this point in time." When I put those questions to Mr. Dunne when he was before the committee, he said that it involved and included the Comptroller and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Did the Commissioner's office specifically inform the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General at any point?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Why not? Is the Commissioner not the Accounting Officer?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: It is directly through the Commissioner's office because I went around the houses on this issue. This is why the Commissioner was brought in to the committee last. We had the different heads of Departments before the committee and when they were asked about why they did not give information to the Comptroller and Auditor General's office, they said that it was to do with their superiors....

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: Which is?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: That is the Commissioner, and she did not do it.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: No, it is not about the Commissioner's understanding. With respect to the Commissioner, we cannot have a situation where we go from heads of Departments, to senior gardaí, to the Commissioner before the committee today and the Commissioner is still saying it is someone else's role. We have heard it from the Comptroller and Auditor General that it is the Commissioner's job, the buck...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (20 Jun 2017)

David Cullinane: The office was not informed. It was the Commissioner's job to inform them. She wrote to the-----