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Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: There are eight in total?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: What office is that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is that Mr. McMahon?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Mr. Buckley mentioned that he is not a property expert but his colleagues are. What property qualifications have any of the eight board members?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is the answer "None"?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I did not ask about experience.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: There may be people who challenge that claim about their being the most experienced in the country. Has Mr. Buckley a property qualification?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Has Mr. Bourke?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Mr. Bourke did a master's in business and there was a module on property.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: What is the SCSI?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Mr. Bourke, therefore, has no qualifications specific to property or property management.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Of course. All the witnesses have qualifications in their own fields. This is not personal. I am trying to get a picture. Of the assistant secretaries, is there anybody with a property qualification?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: A property qualification would typically mean valuer, surveyor, auctioneer, member of the Irish Auctioneers and Valuers Institute, IAVI, member of the chartered institute of surveyors in England, member of the SCSI. Has anybody on the board a qualification of that kind?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: It is the one element that is critical to the point we are discussing today. That is property management, sales, procurement, renting, letting, valuations and measuring.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am talking about at the senior level.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: There is eight people at the senior level, as we established. Do any of those eight have those qualifications?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Mr. Buckley is misunderstanding me again. I am talking about the eight people at assistant secretary level, apart from the State architect's office, but the people who are on the management board to which Mr. Buckley referred.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I said property-related.

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I specifically excluded the State architect. I am sure he is the man to design the building. He is probably not the man to value, or measure, or to determine what comparisons are best to be judged against. I am talking about the rest of the board of management. Has anybody got a qualification?

Public Accounts Committee: 2017 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 13 - Office of Public Works
Chapter 6: Lease of Offices at Miesian Plaza
(11 Oct 2018)

Marc MacSharry: There are no property qualifications at the level of management in the OPW.

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