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Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is there an option in any of those contacts for the company that has the contract to stay on or will they all come back to the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Sharing of revenue was built into some of the contracts for schools but I see that no revenue came back. I think Mr. Ó Foghlú's comment was that there was very poor uptake. I am delighted by that because I thought it was a very bad idea. It is acknowledged that there was poor uptake from people wishing to use schools outside the educational system.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I understand that the Department has stated that there has been limited third party use of the schools. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: So revenue did not come back that way.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: This was another criteria used to sell the PPP which really was without foundation. I have to tell Mr. Ó Foghlú that I am delighted because I think it was a very bad idea. A school should be used for the community and never for profit. That was a criteria that was set. Why is Mr. Ó Foghlú shaking his head?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Absolutely. They should be used by the community.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Are they to pay for those hours?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Okay. Who will be dealing with the revenue coming from the National Conference Centre? I understand the revenue due back from that project was quite sizable. There was €2.4 million in 2013 and then no revenue in 2014, 2015 and 2016. Who monitors the revenue?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: There is nobody from the Office of Public Works.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: So the OPW has no role in that at all?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Again, I do not understand that. We have the national conference centre. If the threshold exceeds a certain level, money is presumably due back to the taxpayer. Some of it came back in 2013. I will not go into the minutiae of it. In 2014, 2015 and 2016, no revenue share was available for the OPW.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Yes, but who assesses performance?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Does the Office of Public Works have a contract manager? Does it have enough staff to do that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I saw that but then there was nothing in 2014, 2015 and 2016.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: When it exceeds that, it is shared.

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Going back to the Gort-Tuam road, I re-read that over lunch. In respect of the Marguerite Fund, its interpretation of TEN-T regulation provides for the court's audit rights even in a case where the beneficiary is a private partner. Are the witnesses disagreeing with that? This is what is set out in the report. I might be putting the witnesses at a disadvantage because they have not read...

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I understand all that. My question is-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: I heard that from Mr. Kennedy but-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2016 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 4 - Overview of Public Private Partnerships
(22 Mar 2018)

Catherine Connolly: Is that not relevant?

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