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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: To recap, we have a situation with the evidence given by the Commissioner previously about acting promptly on 27 July. We have evidence given from two witnesses, Mr. John Barrett and Mr. Michael Culhane, that the committee was set up on 2 July. That has been countered here. There was evidence of a note on 30 June. There was a letter which was sent to Mr. Cyril Dunne from Mr. John Barrett...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: How long did the meeting last? We have heard a range of times from five minutes to over two hours.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: I am not asking for it to be nailed down to a minute. Was it half an hour, an hour or two hours?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: For the public this is a critical and important point. Has Mr. Dónall Ó Cualáin's memory improved since the last day and has he checked out how long this meeting lasted? The last time he could not remember. We have durations of five minutes, up to an hour and over two hours.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: The Commissioner did.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: The Commissioner said-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: We will check the record.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: We will check the record. It was a very brief meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: So it was not a very brief meeting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Was it a substantial meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: In fairness, Mr. Dónall Ó Cualáin has given much evidence and listed a comprehensive amount of areas and topics which had to be covered as part of the meeting. That would suggest it had to be a pretty comprehensive meeting if it was going through all of that. Mr. Cyril Dunne feels it was half an hour to an hour. The Commissioner - we will check the record - says it was a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: So Mr. Cyril Dunne had no conversations with the chair or any members of the CIE board?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Did Mr. Cyril Dunne speak to him beforehand?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Evidence was given. All I want to know is his motivation for leaving. Was it due to the issues in Templemore? Will the Chairman appreciate from where I am coming?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Fine. When Mr. Cyril Dunne asked for the report from Mr. John Barrett, he spent all weekend preparing the report. It was on the basis that he was to inform the audit committee. Why did Mr. Cyril Dunne not do so?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: It was an error.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: If Mr. Cyril Dunne had to go back to it again, would he have notified the committee?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: That is fair. Mr. Cyril Dunne met Mr. John Barrett in September. In the middle of all of this the Fennelly report happened. The interim report talked clearly about effective communication, obligations to inform the Minister, etc. I cannot understand why the audit committee and the internal auditor still were not told subsequent to that. Given what we found out through Fennelly, its...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: That was on 30 September. We have the minutes here. Two witnesses who were at the meeting said it was a brief discussion.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (14 Jun 2017)

Alan Kelly: Yes. Does Mr. Cyril Dunne realise that is completely contrary to the evidence given by the chair of the external audit committee and the internal audit?