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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Is all the back-up equipment in place for the electricity supply and so on?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Mr. Devine mentioned delays earlier. With regard to the hospital's design team, as any project goes on, new plans are presented to contractors. In the past 12 months, how many new plans would have been presented by the team?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Yes. I think Mr. Devine will accept with the design and the build, the plan is not frozen. It seems to be evolving as we go along. How many new sets of plans have been provided to the contractors?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I mean the number of drawings that the hospital would have presented in the past 12 months. If the hospital produces a new drawing, the contractor has to look at it and see how it has to be delivered. There may be a time delay and so on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: What about the design team work on mechanical and electrical services? Is that also changing on an ongoing basis?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: When something new or an update is presented, does that add to the time delay for delivery?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: At any stage in the past two to three years, has a major change occurred in design -----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I assume some of the claims Mr. Devine is talking about are as a result of minor changes in drawings and then there is a variation to the plan originally presented.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: So far, €14 million has been awarded.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Are any of the 16 claims Mr. Devine said add up to €573 million the result of variation in the design or in the plans presented?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: However, €573 million is a substantial sum. Of those 16 claims, what is the highest claim for?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: It is for over €100 million.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Why is that claim so high? That is a substantial sum.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I presume when putting in a claim for €100 million that it has to produce documentation to support that claim.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Has all of that documentation been submitted to the hospital?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: What part of that relates to extension of time? Is it because of the number of additional days involved in delivering on it? How does BAM allege that? A claim of €100 million for additional time -----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I will move on to something totally different, namely, forward planning and equipment. Mr. Devine said that the board has identified all the equipment that is required. Does that mean that if the board was to contact suppliers in the morning, the equipment could be made available? Is some of the equipment being installed at the present time?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: When you add up the cost of all of the equipment that is required for the hospital, what is the total bill for equipment and has that figure changed since the project started off as regards price variation?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I do not think we should bring them in until we have something definitive on that.

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