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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: We just want to agree that we will have that private meeting-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: -----to work out our schedule for the autumn. Is that agreed? Agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: Before we begin, I remind members, witnesses and those in the gallery to turn off their mobile phones, because they interfere with the sound quality and transmission of the meeting. If they are on the desk, this interference is picked up. I advise witnesses that you are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the evidence you are to give the committee. If you are directed by the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: The witnesses are all welcome.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: I thank the acting Garda Commissioner for her opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: On the same point, is there a list of events and what has been charged for each event available?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: Is that list published? Could the committee have a copy of that list?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: Will Mr. Culhane furnish the committee with the list of what was charged against each event? Would the likes of the Curragh and Punchestown be similar?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: Are there exempted events? Does every event that requires that type of policing incur a charge?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: I thank Ms O'Sullivan and the committee would appreciate if we could have a copy of the events and the charges applied in each case.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: Is the Deputy asking about the three concerts or the five concerts?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: Would the Deputy like to wish the Taoiseach success in his negotiations on the issue?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: It may impress him when he is making decisions later.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: I want to turn now to procurement. How is general procurement, be it vehicles or servicing of vehicles, managed? When the Garda is purchasing a service or goods, does it have a panel of businesses it uses? Also, does it vet the company or individual chosen in terms of reliability and suitability for dealing with the Garda?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: Has the Garda ever refused to deal with someone who was successful in the procurement process because of what might be termed "operational reasons"? If a business wins a contract, it has obviously gone through the process successfully and been vetted. Has there been any instance where such a business has not been used as a supplier?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: Would the inappropriateness relate to the individual or the company?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: Therefore, even after securing the contract, something may become apparent and then the Garda will not go ahead and use that individual or company. Is that person or company informed of the reasons for not being used?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: How would that information be conveyed to them? Would it be by word of mouth or would the Garda write to them?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - An Garda Síochána
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
(10 Jul 2014)

John McGuinness: The number of members of the force is now down to less than 13,000 and the acting Commissioner has said the Garda can fulfil its full obligations with that number. This might come as a surprise to some people around the country, because they constantly hear of the non-availability of gardaĆ­ for some reason or another in regard to reporting incidents and getting a response. For example,...

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