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Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is a huge shift in spending away from State or local authority housing assets. Somebody else has the asset, and that is the point.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: I have a question about the occupancy of emergency accommodation. There was an example in Holybrook Park, Clontarf, where Dublin City Council leased a house from private interests for emergency accommodation. My understanding is that the council was boxed into a situation. A person owned the property next door and a situation arose whereby the council was not going to get one without the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay, you can refer back to me on that. Thank you.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: There is another point relating to private rented accommodation. It is costing €7,800 per unit. Then, as I mentioned, the tenant in most cases pays a differential rent and also pays the top-up. The real cost of the unit, therefore, is far in excess of €7,800. That is the cost to the State and I accept that is the accurate figure you are giving. However, that is the 2020...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: There is about an extra 1,000 in the HAP scheme. What about the reply to the other question?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: I thank Ms Stapleton. That is important in terms of quality but also to speed up the process.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: If members wish to come in for a quick question each, they have three minutes each.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: Does Deputy Hourigan have another question?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: On affordable cost rental and affordable housing, how many units were delivered? I know the Department does not have complete figures for 2021. How many cost rentals were delivered in the first nine months of the year?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: Does that include affordable purchase?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: How many affordable purchase properties were delivered?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: I just wanted to clarify that. I will ask about the thresholds for social housing. One's income has to be under a certain level before one can go on the social housing waiting list. Those figures, as I recall, have not been reviewed since 2011. Different people, including Ministers, told me as far back as two years ago that a review was happening. There are some answers to parliamentary...

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: Who is considering it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: Okay. If any of the officials are working on the review with the Minister, I ask them to convey that message to him.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: It is an urgent piece of work that needs to be completed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: I will ask briefly about public private partnerships, PPPs. I have a lot of questions about PPPs that we will not have time to get into. Our guests are handed a policy, as I said earlier, to try to deal with this. Take, for example, the PPP for O'Devaney Gardens. Am I correct in saying that the cost to the State to purchase each of those units is €403,000?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: This is on public land so there are no land costs. Am I correct that the cost to the State is €403,000 per unit?

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: I am asking about the project at O'Devaney Gardens which is a PPP of sorts.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: Sorry, but I want to use my time to find out about costs. I am interested in the cost per unit. We we all want more units and we are all on the same page in that regard. What I am saying here is that it seems the cost is in the region of €400,000. In fact, €403,000 is the figure I have but I am open to correction on that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2020 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage
(17 Feb 2022)

Brian Stanley: What is the council paying for its units?

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