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Competition (Amendment) Act 2016 [Seanad]: Report and Final Stages (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I thank the Minister. I welcome everyone in the Gallery, including musicians, voice-over artists, actors and many who have contributed to the Bill. Collectively, they will have a right good session when it is over, which we would love to be involved in. Everyone knows the details of the legislation. It is a very important Bill with a long history. It is a great day for us in the...

Competition (Amendment) Act 2016 [Seanad]: Report and Final Stages (31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: It has not been through the Seanad.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Do not know which way we are voting.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I will do it on our behalf.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I wish to clarify that Mr. Barrett was not aware of this. It was not provided to him under the request he made and yet it was provided to this committee yesterday.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: It is frankly incredible.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: How many times did Mr. Barrett write to the Commissioner?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Is everyone saying no? Every single person? All right.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Culhane should answer the question.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I do not know where to start.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I could do with ten hours. I think Mr. Culhane is having a volte-facemoment given what he has just withdrawn. I find that incredible. For me, Mr. Culhane's evidence to this committee is probably the most incredible evidence I have heard as a member of the Committee of Public Accounts, and not in a good way. I have been following the issues in regard to the Garda Training College for a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: To date. The following question is to each of the witnesses with the exception of Mr. Howard, purely because he is not a member of management. I do not propose to get into the intricacies of who is being referred to. I would like the witnesses to respond in the following order, Mr. Nugent, Mr. Barrett, Mr. Kelly, Mr. Culhane and Mr. Ruane. Do the witnesses have full confidence in every...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Barrett does not have full confidence in senior management?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: I will take it that Mr. Barrett does not have full confidence in senior management. Would Mr. Kelly like to respond?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Kelly does not have full confidence either?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: In terms of senior management, I am speaking about the commissioners at senior level, and the Garda Commissioner. Does Mr. Culhane have full confidence in senior management?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Ruane?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Mr. Kelly's opening statement is the most explosive I have ever heard at the Committee of Public Accounts. Since the previous meeting on 4 May, has there been any attempt to influence the content of that opening statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: Given what Mr. Kelly said today, does he feel that his position in An Garda Síochána over a number of years has been undermined and does he feel that he was misled?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Alan Kelly: We might get into the detail of that later. I want now to ask Mr. Barrett a few questions. The Garda Commissioner previously stated at this committee that once these issues were brought to her attention on 27 July she did everything in her power to address them. She established a group. There was also the meeting which Mr. Barrett said lasted for over two hours but the Garda Commissioner...

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