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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: It is dated 24 October - the Commissioner thing. Is that the letter?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: That correspondence-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: We have a very brief time so I hope the witnesses will be distinct in their responses. I wish to ask all the witnesses a question that requires only a "Yes" or "No" answer. Do all the witnesses understand the role and function of the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General, the role and function of the Committee of Public Accounts and the role and function of internal audit? Is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: I must say that I found Mr. Kelly's opening statement today to be very serious and alarming. It was almost explosive in its content. I am sure that Mr. Kelly would have been aware of that when he wrote his opening statement. He makes very serious allegations and I want to examine the allegations made in that statement. In his opening statement Mr. Kelly made reference to interference,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Say it again please for this committee. Who exactly? If Mr. Kelly does not want to give their names, he can gives their title and role.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: For the record of the committee, is Mr. Kelly saying that the chief administrative officer, who I would assume was the previous officer, Cyril Dunne-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Before that, and the executive director of finance, was that Mr. Culhane?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: -----and the chief superintendent and the administrator were all part of the non-co-operation, interference and withholding of information? Is that his view? Is that who he is talking about?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Is Mr. Kelly is talking about Mr. Culhane also?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Does Mr. Culhane believe he was part of the interference, non-co-operation or withholding of information from internal audit?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: In his opinion, was Mr. Culhane part of the interference, non-co-operation or withholding of information from internal audit?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Can Mr. Culhane answer the question please?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: We are dealing with very serious issues here. We have the head on internal audit alleging - it is his opinion and he is doing a body of work - that individuals were part of interfering with, not co-operating with and withholding information from an internal audit. By virtue of that, they were also withholding information from the Committee of Public Accounts, from the Comptroller and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: I will refer to a couple of letters Mr. Culhane did write. We dealt earlier with a letter dated 24 October 2015, relating to Mr. Barrett and addressed to the Commissioner and other individuals. Does Mr. Culhane have a copy of the letter?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Culhane wrote that he had a number of concerns about Mr. Barrett, who had stated that the matter was not going away and that he would not let it go away. It stated that Mr. Barrett had said the Commissioner should make a section 41 disclosure and that the matter should be reported to the Comptroller and Auditor General. Mr. Culhane wrote that John Barrett had stated that if the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Culhane keeps saying that but I am not looking for context. Mr. Culhane said Mr. Barrett had stated that the matter was not going away and that he would not let it go away. The letter stated that Mr. Barrett had said the Commissioner should make a section 41 disclosure and that the matter should be reported to the Comptroller and Auditor General. Mr. Barrett had also stated that if the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: No, you go further than that. You said you found Mr. Barrett's statements disturbing and alarming.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Which statements were disturbing and which were alarming to you?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: To which issues was Mr. Culhane referring when he called them disturbing and alarming? I mentioned the six issues earlier and I asked which of them he found objectionable. Mr. Culhane answered that he found none objectionable, even though it is clear from the letter that he did find them objectionable. Mr. Culhane went on to say the statements made by Mr. Barrett were disturbing and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Culhane misses my point. What he has just said goes right to the heart of why we are here in relation to the period from 2006 to 2016. He said the issue should be dealt with within the organisation. In other words, he is saying, "Circle the wagons". He is confirming everything that Mr. Kelly and Mr. Barrett said and his mindset was to deal internally with all the evidence which had...