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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Discussion (28 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We will not do a marketing campaign here.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Discussion (28 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: 90 days?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Discussion (28 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Why is that the case?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Discussion (28 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: In the context of the report that was mentioned and the figure of €30 million to which all the speakers referred, will Mr. Sloyan confirm that the figures cited in regard to the impact on public beds were given by the Health Insurance Authority in respect of 2012? Will he also indicate whether trends regarding the use of public beds were factored into the report?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Discussion (28 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The €30 million figure is the only point on which we have had uniformity from the insurers this morning. Will that figure will be reviewed in terms of looking beyond 2012 to the future?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Discussion (28 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you, Mr. Sloyan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Discussion (28 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank all the witnesses for their contributions to this very positive discussion. We are all agreed that we need to reduce the cost of health insurance to the consumer. The witnesses all come from their own particular vantage point, but for us it is all about the consumer. One of the themes that emerged related to the work being done by Pat McLaughlin. We have had many good ideas and...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Discussion (28 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I was going by the figures in the witnesses' presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Discussion (28 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I am not the Minister and cannot, therefore, enlighten Mr. Clancy on that point.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Discussion (28 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Unfortunately, I do not. I hope we can all work together to ensure prices come down for consumers. I remind members that the select sub-committee will meet next Tuesday, 3 December at 5.15 p.m. to consider the Bill.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I have received apologies from Deputy Dan Neville who will be replaced by Deputy Marcella Corcoran Kennedy. I welcome the Minister for Health, Deputy James Reilly, and his officials, Mr. Dermot Ryan, Ms Patsy Carr and Mr. Paul Flanagan, whom I thank them for being here. Would the Minister like to make an opening statement?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is straying off the Bill.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I do not think it is.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is straying from the Bill. We are on section 3.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I did not state the Deputy did not do so.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Section 3.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Amendments Nos. 3 and 4 are related and will be discussed together.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: To restate the point, it is all about the consumer. If the Minister carries out his audit and enacts legislation on competing policies, will the customer see a reduction in the cost of his premium? The Minister is correct; the graph is going one way and the cost is not coming down.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is straying a little.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health Insurance (Amendment) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (3 Dec 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy has made that point already.

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