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Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We are discussing the Bill, not the programme for Government.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The Deputy is straying from the Bill.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Since there is a vote in the Dáil, I ask the Deputy to conclude in order that we can suspend the sitting.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We are now resuming in public session. I wish to convey to the Minister of State that Deputy Ó Caoláin has to attend the Dáil for the debate on the Child and Family Agency Bill. It is a pity that a spokesperson is supposed to be in two places at once. None of us has been able to master the art of bi-location but this situation is disappointing. It is unfair to spokespersons...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We are speaking on the Bill.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I would be happy if the Minister of State looked at the section.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Please speak to section 1.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I think we have had a fair discussion on section 1.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I appreciate that Members have busy schedules but Deputy Ó Caoláin is standing in the Dáil speaking on another Bill as part of our committee work. The scheduling is disappointing and I hope we will write to the Whip's office and talk to the chair of chairs regarding the scheduling of committee business clashing with the Dáil. It is unfair on spokespersons and committee...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: The issuance of letters is an issue. The fear of God is instilled in people, particularly the elderly, when there is no need to do so in many cases. We all accept that some people who have medical cards should not have received them. When Deputy Billy Kelleher's party was in government, patronage was ripe. That was the way it was then, but everything has changed.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We have driven people completely demented and there is no need for it. It is welcome that at the initiation of the Minister of State and the Minister the HSE now has a communications plan and the letter has been changed but profiling is an issue that should be examined. People in their 80s and older are coming into to our offices petrified. Deputy Seamus Healy has made a good suggestion...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I must interrupt the Deputy because a vote has been called in the Dáil.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Will we resume after the vote in the Dáil?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Health (Alteration of Eligibility Criteria) (No. 2) Bill 2013: Committee Stage (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Will the Minister of State take Deputy Healy's point on the review into consideration too?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Message to Dáil (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: In accordance with Standing Order 87, the following message will be sent to the Dáil: The Select Sub-Committee on Health has completed its consideration of the Health (Alteration of Criteria for Eligibility) (No. 2) Bill 2013 and has made no amendments thereto.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Prevention and Treatment of Lyme Disease: Discussion (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We will now commence in public session. I remind members, witnesses and persons in the Public Gallery to ensure their mobile telephones are switched off or in aeroplane mode as otherwise they interfere with the broadcasting of proceedings and cause difficulties for staff. The purpose of this meeting is to discuss issues surrounding the prevention and treatment of Lyme disease, an...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Prevention and Treatment of Lyme Disease: Discussion (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Thank you, Dr. Schwarzbach. I invite Dr. Eoin Healy from University College Cork to make his presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Prevention and Treatment of Lyme Disease: Discussion (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Dr. Healy for his presentation. I call Mr. Mícheál Casey, veterinarian, Department of Agriculture, Food and Marine, to make his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Prevention and Treatment of Lyme Disease: Discussion (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Our next speaker is Ms Lisa Vandergrift Davala, who has done extensive research on the issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: Prevention and Treatment of Lyme Disease: Discussion (21 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Ms Vandegrift Davala for her very moving testimony . I welcome Ms Tracy Brennan and Ms Annette Moloney, two Lyme disease patients and advocates and thank them for being here.

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