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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: That is fine. Separately, where do we anticipate the deficit being in 2025?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: That will be an extra €20 million the hospital will be looking for at the end of the year. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: What would that be like?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: That is the dialysis centre in the hospital itself.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: That is what I was wondering from the way Mr. Hanlon said that. Where are the other centres?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: Would people get taxis from-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: Okay, so they would get taxis-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: How much would the hospital spend, roughly, on taxis a year if its saving is €120,000, just out of curiosity?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: Is the €120,000 10% or so? Is the total about €1 million, does Mr. Hanlon think, or-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: I do not want to put him on the spot. We do not want to risk getting it wrong and there being a headline out of it. As regards the insourcing, I know Deputy Ardagh touched on it as well, but there were obviously concerns about the insourcing in the hospital. We are happy with all those that have been dealt with. I know we touched on this earlier. We are all happy that they have been...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: What are they, just out of curiosity?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: How many people would have been involved in those? How many consultants?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: How many people are we talking about here?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: Consultants.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: So two or three individuals.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: Fine.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: We are all trying to learn, and there is no way we are going to be fully proficient in this, so some of the questions might seem quite basic, but how are the contracts awarded for insourcing, or how do the witnesses plan that they would be when they restart?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: That is a more general question to the NTPF.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: That funding would go to the hospitals, would it?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2024: National Treatment Purchase Fund
Financial Statements 2023: Beaumont Hospital Board
(9 Oct 2025)

Joe Neville: Does the NTPF set out a rough amount for the budget then? It is almost like a budget for the year ahead, is it?

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