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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: It is not a policing issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: This is meeting is about policing and that is not a policing issue.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: No.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I will not allow the Deputy to ask the question. It has nothing to do with business-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: The Minister does not need me to guard her.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: It is not about the Minister rather it is about the time of the committee. I am not here to guard the Minister.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: The Deputy already asked the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: Okay. Go ahead with the question then. Quickly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: The Deputy already asked the question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I might raise a few issues. Obviously, this is a discussion on policing. One criticism made in some quarters is that gardaí were not more forceful in their engagement with rioters on the streets. I have lived in different cities in Europe and I have seen forceful engagement of riot police with people in a public order scenario. I do not want to see that here. I do not want to see...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I thank the Minister and I have another question about GSOC. The Minister has heard Garda representative organisations state that gardaí are afraid to do certain things because they are concerned it will result in a matter coming before GSOC. In the first instance I want to say that I absolutely support GSOC. The level of accountability that it has brought to policing is very...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: Deputy Ó Laoghaire had to step out to go to the Dáil Chamber for a priority question earlier so I will go to him now.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I am conscious this is meeting about policing and not about the timeline of events.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I thank the Minister for that. Senator Ruane said that she wishes to come back in. If anybody wishes to come back in, I will give them one minute each. We will bring everybody in together. I call Senator Ruane first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: Before the Minister responds, are there any other comments which members may wish to make before we conclude? I will give members one minute if they wish to raise any other distinct issues.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: That is more in the nature of a comment than a question.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I thank the Minister. I know the past two weeks have not been easy but I want to say to the Minister, and I know she has said this on a number of occasions, that our concerns are very much with the families affected by the attack on 23 November. We hope for a speedy recovery for everyone. I wanted to express that on behalf of the committee, and I know it is something which has been...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Policing Matters: Discussion (Resumed) (7 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I appreciate that. The committee is now adjourned until Tuesday, 12 December at 4 p.m. when we will meet in private session on housekeeping matters. I thank everyone.

Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (12 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: I am sympathetic to the impetus behind these proposed amendments. Amendments Nos. 20 and 21 relate to section 16 of the Bill and the skill set that members of the board would have. What Senator Ruane said is absolutely right insofar as the board would benefit from people who have a background in community development or experience and knowledge of human rights and equality. I have a small...

Seanad: Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (13 Dec 2023)

Barry Ward: Very reasonable.

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