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Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: A septic tank licence? For God's sake.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: Not all laws have criminal sanctions.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: We know.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The wetlands directive.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: That does not make it right.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I do not agree that principle.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: That is how serious we are about the issue.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The Minister is welcome to come to one of the sessions.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: My question concerns the Department's figures on the number of septic tanks in compliance. The public consultation was held after the horse had bolted. This is like the water directive.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I am not the Minister and I am not introducing the legislation. I am trying to protect people by fighting against the legislation.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I am coming with an informed opinion from the public consultation meetings.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: The Minister likes to misrepresent people in the House but that is unfair. We spoke about this at length yesterday. I find it hard to fathom how the Department presented figures to the European Commission in defence of this country. If the Minister is saying that fines are coming down the tracks-----

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: No, the court case was taken in May of this year. The current Minister was in office when the case was taken.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: There was a case.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: We can talk about previous Ministers if we wish. Deputy Hogan is the Minister for the Environment, Community and Local Government since March. The same officials are in the Department and they do a good job to the best of their ability. What level of information has been obtained from local authorities, given that every county council has granted planning permission since 1963? Has there...

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: That information should be provided if we are introducing legislation.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: How does the Minister justify his statement on Second Stage that very few of the septic tanks will not meet the standard?

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: No, this is fundamental to the Bill.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: I appeal to the Cathaoirleach.

Seanad: Water Services (Amendment) Bill 2011: Committee Stage (Resumed) (24 Nov 2011)

Brian Ó Domhnaill: It is relevant because it applies to the offences and the implications. In the debate on Second Stage, the Minister said that very few septic tanks would be non-compliant. How can the Minister back that up if he says the Department has no figures? What scientific basis is being used for that statement on Second Stage? The House deserves to know and I want to know.

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