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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Let us go back through this case. First, we have what seems to correspond with the 2012 draft disclosures policy in CIT. We have established that a letter was received and that it was not seen as a disclosure. The president, on 17 June last year, said, "No, we never received any disclosures." Mr. Gallagher has said that was the case. He has said it here again. However, now we see...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am speaking generally. To be honest, this is a new disclosure. I did not know anything about this disclosure until today.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: However, how appropriate is it for it to make accusations against the people who are running it?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: In fairness to Mr. Beausang, who has a corporate governance structure that could be identified as such and that allows the body to have plenipotentiary status over accusations against itself?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I do not know the subject of any of these things.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Would that have been the case with the anonymous letter as well?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: How independent was that process?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Was it given back to CIT to investigate?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is Mr. Gallagher on the audit committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Arthur Cox wrote to Mr. Gallagher in replying to that. Why did it do that if it is an independent committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: That means it is not independent. Arthur Cox was asked for advice and it wrote to Mr. Gallagher to pass it on to the audit committee. Surely that contaminates the process, without prejudice to Mr. Gallagher.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: So, I believe. The audit committee met with KPMG before it commenced its work. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: In correspondence the committee has, it was stated the audit committee met with KPMG in December 2014, before it commenced its work. Was Mr. Gallagher at that meeting as a facilitator or anything?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Does the Chairman want to move on?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I have more to do on it.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I second Deputy Kelly's proposal to ask the Department to investigate and respond, because there is confusion now about the number of disclosures pre-2017. I will go back to my previous line on the anonymous disclosure. All reports were heavily redacted but did the disclosure make allegations against members of the executive?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: That would include the executive. Did it include the previous president?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: Is the anonymous letter the subject of a High Court case?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am talking about the one the KPMG report was about. Is that now the subject of a High Court case?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2016: Higher Education Authority, University College Cork and Cork Institute of Technology (24 May 2018)

Marc MacSharry: I am not interested in individual allegations. I am just interested in the scope of inclusion in terms of people. I understand that there were allegations against the president. Was Mr. Gallagher the subject of allegations?

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