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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I am sorry to have to tell you that you are.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Our next speaker is Margaret Naughton, secretary of the National Association of Healthcare Chaplains. You are very welcome.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Ms Naughton and welcome Dr. Deirdre Madden, lecturer in law in University College Cork, UCC.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Dr. Madden for her presentation. Our next speaker is Mr. Bryan Nolan, communications and development co-ordinator in the Irish Hospice Foundation. I welcome Mr. Nolan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Mr. Nolan. I call the next speaker, Professor Cillian Twomey.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Our final speaker is Ms Joan Kelly who is a nursing services manager with the Irish Cancer Society. Ms Kelly is very welcome.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Ms Kelly for the presentation and for coming in at such short notice. That concludes the presentations. We now move to the question and answer session. We have apologies from some of the members who have had to leave because they must go to the Dáil Chamber. Deputy Ó Caoláin is taking Leaders' Questions, Deputy Kelleher had another meeting and Deputy Mitchell...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We will suspend as there is a vote in the Dáil. I apologise to our witnesses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We will see. We will resume after the Dáil vote.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I apologise to our witnesses for the lengthy interruption. We did not realise the Taoiseach and party leaders would be making statements. I hope the witnesses are suitably refreshed from their respite. Deputy McLellan was in possession.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Sorry, Ms Naughton, I will take questions from the three members first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We will start in reverse order with Professor Twomey.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: We can assure you he is not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: In regard to the issue around pastoral care and the CPE programme and, in particular in Cork University Hospital where there was a question mark about it continuing, is that programme still ongoing?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: Where are the other training venues?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: In her presentation Ms Naughton mentioned the moratorium in the context of chaplaincy. Is there a big turnover in chaplains?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: In terms of personnel changing, retiring or leaving.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I apologise for dwelling on this. Where does chaplaincy fit in the private hospitals?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I thank Ms Naughton.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health and Children: End-of-Life Care: Discussion (Resumed) (14 Nov 2013)

Jerry Buttimer: I call Professor Patrick Plunkett.

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