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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: May I stop Mr. O'Callaghan? Does Mr. O'Callaghan understand that when I ask a question, I expect the question to be answered. I do not want a history lesson. I want a straight answer to a question that was asked. The question Mr. O'Callaghan was asked was when was the Department made aware of at least 40 bank accounts operating. What day, what month and what year was the Department made...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: About 40 bank accounts plus?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: When was the Department made aware of the leasing arrangement in respect of the Dromod farm?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: When was the Department made aware that money was being generated from the lease of these lands and was being put into a bank account that was supervised by the Garda Training College?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Was it at that point?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: When was the Department made aware of the presence of what was called a laundry account? Is Mr. O'Callaghan aware of this laundry account that is cited in the internal audit report?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: I am trying to establish when that was.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: To clarify, it was in September 2015 that the Department was first made aware of the existence of the laundry account and, we will say, almost all the issues that were cited in the interim audit report. Would that be fair?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: The witnesses would have been made aware there was essentially double charging of laundry and 38% of the money in the laundry account was used for purposes other than laundry. That is what is in the internal audit report. Was it in September 2015 that they were made aware of that as well?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: When were the witnesses made aware of the transfer of €100,000 to the Garda boat club?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Does the Comptroller and Auditor General know when the €100,000 was transferred? What year was it transferred?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: One of the predecessors to Mr. Waters would have been the Accounting Officer. Does that concern him?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Something has occurred. The witness says he read the interim audit report. He will be aware a reference was made to the transfer of this €100,000 to the boat club. We have not established exactly where that money came from and it is possible it could have come from voted expenditure. It was in an account with a mix of different revenue streams so this happened on the watch of the...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: No. The Secretary General would have been the Accounting Officer in that period. We know the payments were made, as the Comptroller and Auditor General has said, between 2000 and 2003. It may have been inappropriate and it is alleged it was inappropriate. The witness was made aware of this in 2015. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: What action did the Department take when it was made aware of that in 2015?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: The witness is waiting for the complete audit report before any action is taken, if any action is to be taken at all. Is that what the witness is saying?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Mr. Waters is the Secretary General of the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: One of his predecessors was the Accounting Officer at that time. I am not asking Mr. Waters to account for that person. There is a strong possibility it was wrong and there is certainly an allegation it was wrong. These accounts would have been signed off on from 2000 to 2003 by the Department. References were made by a Mr. John Barrett, who is the executive director of human resources,...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: I will read, if I may, from the dossier we received from Mr. John Barrett. It is from a letter sent to Mr. Niall Kelly, who is head of internal audit, dated 12 October 2016. It states:I am particularly concerned about how this matter was deliberately and systematically kept outside the purview of the statutory audit committee? How it came to pass that reports specifically prepared on the...