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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: I welcome Mr. Waters and his team. I have a number of questions. I would like to get clarity on the relationship between the Department of Justice and Equality and An Garda Síochána. Will Mr. Waters please talk me through the current relationship between the Department of Justice and Equality and An Garda Síochána from an accounting perspective?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: I understand that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: In order to be clear, I will outline my understanding of what Mr. Waters has said. Prior to 2005, the Accounting Officer would have been the Secretary General of the then Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform. From 2005 onwards, the Accounting Officer would have been the Garda Commissioner.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: That is from 2006 onwards. Would the application, management and oversight of the Garda Vote still remain in the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: There was a discussion as to how much authority should be ceded to the policing authority but essentially-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: -----the application, management and oversight of the Garda Vote

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Does the Department have any oversight in respect of how money is spent by An Garda Síochána?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: None whatsoever? From 2005 onwards?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Obviously Mr. Waters is aware of the interim audit report that was published by Mr. Niall Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Is Mr. Waters aware of issues that arose at the last sitting of the Committee of Public Accounts when the Garda Commissioner and her team was present? Has he been briefed on that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Was Mr O'Callaghan present on the day?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Did Mr. O'Callaghan brief Mr. Waters?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: When Mr. O'Callaghan states he had discussions, did he have a sit down meeting?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: So Mr. Waters was briefed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Obviously not, but Mr. Water was briefed by one of his officials who was present at the meeting. Mr. Waters is obviously aware of the general discussion that took place. Had Mr. Waters read the interim audit report?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: In that report, a reference was made to an incomplete report in 2006 from internal audit. Is Mr. Waters aware of that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Obviously Mr. Waters was not there at the time, but is he aware of when the Department became aware of that report?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Is Mr. Waters aware of when the Department first became aware of alleged financial irregularities in the Garda Training College in Templemore?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Is Mr. Waters telling me that was the first time the Department became aware of multiple bank accounts? Was the Department ever aware before the 2016 report was furnished that there were multiple bank accounts operating in the training college?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account (Resumed)
Vote 24 - Justice and Equality (Resumed)
Chapter 6 - Procurement and Management of Contracts for Direct Provision (Resumed) (11 May 2017)

David Cullinane: That is what I want to get to because Mr. Waters told me a second ago that the first time the Department was made aware of the alleged irregularities which are in the internal audit was when he was presented with a copy in 2016. Obviously these alleged irregularities centre around a number of bank accounts. Mr. O'Callaghan, when was the Department made aware of the 40 plus bank accounts...