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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Mr. O'Connor wanted to come back in briefly.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Deputy Gabrielle McFadden and Senator Martin Conway have indicated. We will ask Mr. Dillon for an outline later.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: There were three questions asked. There is the cost of funding per night in Athlone. There are specific issues such as post traumatic stress and other issues. Mr. Kerwin might also like to comment on post traumatic stress.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: I presume most of the ex-service personnel would have an Army pension or other pensions. Do they contribute?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Would they not have the full 21 years service?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: I presume that a person who would leave after three years service would be quite young. People would be eligible for the State pension when they reach that age. Do they make a contribution?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Mr. Kerwin might be best placed to talk about post traumatic stress from his experience abroad.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: The Senator raised the question of comparing the supports for ex-service people in Ireland and those available in other jurisdictions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Does Senator O'Donovan wish to comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: I invite Mr. Dillon to comment on some of the points Mr. O'Connor and Deputy McFadden raised earlier.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Thank you. That is fascinating. You said that we are the only country with this policy. It has been said to us that the Defence Forces are primarily made up of young people, especially in the low ranks, as one needs to be young and fit in order to do what they do. We had a discussion with the Minister and others in the past. There are 1,400 members in the Organisation of National...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Indeed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: That seems to be the case across the board with many organisations. The witness is absolutely right. I am conscious that Mr. Garland, Mr. Gilbert and Mr. Mott are here as well. Do they wish to make any comment?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: It is a very important point and thank you for reminding us of that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: This is a poignant coincidence.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: We can make that point. This hearing will be watched and noted by others outside. We will communicate with the Department of Defence and the Minister. I welcome Senator Craughwell who is a former serving member to the committee. He may have something to add to the discussion.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: For Senator Craughwell’s information, this is the first time these organisations have come to the Oireachtas. We are holding this hearing to give them an opportunity to voice their concerns and issues.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: The old bull’s wool.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: That is unique, indeed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Welfare of Ex-Service Personnel: Discussion (16 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: A military life and life in a barracks can be quite sheltered, especially if one is single.

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