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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Can Mr. Culhane turn to page 14 of the report where he will see that?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: It says that of the six points agreed in correspondence between the Commissioner and the chief administration officer, CAO, none was implemented.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Yes, but in terms of the note that was given to the Commissioner, he accepted the recommendations. The logic was that they would be implemented but none of them was. Mr. Culhane referenced the note between the Commissioner and the CAO. He brought that up. It made, as we know, six recommendations and six points were raised. The internal audit report shows, and it may be that Mr. Kelly can...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Can I be helpful to the Vice Chairman? Page 4 of the report states that college management responded in March 2010 rejecting many of the recommendations of the finance directorate's report. It goes on to say that some of the issues were addressed by the college management but the structural issues in college governance were not addressed and, over the years, some of the improvements in...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: On the rejection of those recommendations, what course of action did Mr. Culhane take?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Everyone who has been asked has said "We passed it on to somebody else" and somebody else is not in the room. We do not know what the person who is not in the room did with it. That is the pattern that seems to be evident from all of the responses.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Those of us who want to come back in should be able to do so. There are people who want to come back in.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Today has been a long one for or us all as we have spent almost five hours in discussions and it seems a long time since I asked my questions. At the time I talked about the internal audit report being comprised of a litany of failures and used the term sloppy practice. Mr. Kelly used the terms irregular practice and maladministration, which I think we can accept. Earlier I asked...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Why did it take such a long time?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Does Mr. Kelly believe the information was purposely withheld?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: In Mr. Kelly's experience of audit-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: -----and the world of auditing-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: -----the reason an organisation or an individual in an organisation identify potential wrongdoings, sloppy practices and so on and pass information to auditors, the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General and the Department is because the organisation or individual wants a spotlight to be shone on the issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: A reason they would not do it generally is they do not want a spotlight shone on the issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: That was the problem. This is a question for the Comptroller and Auditor General as well. I acknowledge this is a difficult question for him to answer but, in his professional opinion, at what point should the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General have been informed of the issues we are aware of and which we have spent almost five hours discussing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: However, that did not happen in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: That raises questions. Mr. Kelly sought reports, which he did not receive. I have been fair to him regarding the work he and his office did, but there are also questions to be answered and issues to which we must return regarding the follow-up when they did not receive information. Earlier, he said that when he sought the 2008 report and did not get it and a few years went by, he brought...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: How was that communicated?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Is it acceptable that there is no paper trail and that he did not put this in writing, given the seriousness of this?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (4 May 2017)

David Cullinane: Why did Mr. Kelly not put it in writing?