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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Yes but the money went from the restaurant to the Sportsfield account-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: -----and it was then grant-aided to a private company. Mr. Ruane told us that on 31 August 2015 he notified the Department of Justice and Equality.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: What did the complete submission comprise?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: That would have gone to the Department of Justice and Equality.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Does the Department of Justice and Equality have anything to say?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Would Ms Barry's attention have been drawn to the 2008 and 2010 reports?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: That was 6 October 2015.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Would that information have been brought to the Minister's attention at that stage?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Can Mr. Kelly confirm he will revert to the committee in regard to the several bank accounts which he is investigating? Does Mr. Kelly or Mr. Nugent know if anything was discovered when the bank accounts were being closed? Is there any specific indication of any Templemore moneys being sent to a bank account in Dublin which was under the control of a former senior Garda officer? Is a...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: There is, therefore, an audit examining issues of that nature.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: The committee has been told of several specific things that are subject to a follow-on audit. Are there other things that have been found and are now the subjects of an investigation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I have asked the witness a very specific question. Is it likely that he will be able to answer it when he returns before the committee in July?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Has the use of the ATM machines been regularised? Mr. Kelly or Mr. Culhane can answer. I am referring to how the ATM was being used, which emerged in the 2008 report. Has the practice changed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: No, it is not. It was a previous report.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I think it was the 2008 report. Does this matter exclusively relate to Templemore? Are there other relationships outside, with Sportsfield Company Limited, other than the boat club with clubs like the one at South Circular Road, Westmanstown or any of those?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed)
(31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I thank the witnesses.

Mother and Baby Homes: Statements (1 Jun 2017)

Catherine Murphy: On the previous occasion we debated this mother and baby home it was with a specific focus on what one can describe as nothing more than the atrocities that had occurred in Tuam. At the time, the Taoiseach spoke about the culpability of the State and society, but I reiterate what I said that day that the State is not some anonymous set of officials. The reality is that in those mother and...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account
Chapter 13 - Revenue's Review of Medical Consultants' Tax Affairs
Chapter 14 - Research and Development Tax Credit
Chapter 16 - Deferral of Tobacco Stamp Liability
(1 Jun 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Tax planning must have started somewhere. Have the Revenue Commissioners identified the original people who carried it out?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account
Chapter 13 - Revenue's Review of Medical Consultants' Tax Affairs
Chapter 14 - Research and Development Tax Credit
Chapter 16 - Deferral of Tobacco Stamp Liability
(1 Jun 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Would there generally be a consequence for such people?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriations Account
Chapter 13 - Revenue's Review of Medical Consultants' Tax Affairs
Chapter 14 - Research and Development Tax Credit
Chapter 16 - Deferral of Tobacco Stamp Liability
(1 Jun 2017)

Catherine Murphy: The Revenue Commissioners may consider what can be done in that context.

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