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Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: I would prefer if we would stick with the subhead with which we are dealing.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: We are a long way from appropriations-in-aid. Let us try to stick with it. We are almost at the end of this Vote. What is the final net figure when we take into account the extra spend needed and the savings? Is there a balance to be made up by the Exchequer?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: That is €32.5 million extra?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: I thank the Minister. We will move on to Vote 21 - prisons. With regard to subhead A1, administration and pay, there is an extra cost to payroll of €5 million. If any members wish to comment it is on page 12 of the notes.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: We are talking about additional payroll costs.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: The Deputy is completely off the topic. Allow me to help, if I can.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: This topic is to do with the €5 million extra which is required to meet payroll costs for serving prison staff, it is nothing to do with gardaí.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Subhead A1, administration and pay. It has to do with extra prison officers.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Yes, if we are dealing with the subhead. If it falls under that we will try to stick to that if we can. Perhaps the Minister can clarify what was the target for the employment control framework and by how much was it breached?

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: I thank the Minister. Are there any further comments? No. I now turn to subhead A3, buildings and equipment. There is €1.992 million extra required there and it has to do with development works in Limerick Prison happening earlier than originally planned and €0.5 million for maintenance works throughout the prison estate.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: The topic does not arise under these Supplementary Estimates.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: I now turn to subhead A5, operational services. A figure of €1.02 million is involved for additional requirement which may arise due to increased expense in vehicle maintenance. Also, legal fees paid and the expenses this year exceeded the budget. Does any member wish to comment on that? No. An extra €1 million is needed for compensation. Additional funding is required due...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: No, we have not reached it yet.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: We will come to it. The next item concerns savings made or reallocated from a subhead, administration, non-pay and the relatively small amount of €92,000. Are there any comments? No. I now turn to prisoner services, which is €2 million due to cost efficiencies in the use and supply of items such as cleaning materials, catering supplies and other large expense items. A...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: That does not arise here.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: I will explain again what this is about. The Estimates at the start of next year will cover everything. The Supplementary Estimate covers only certain areas that require extra funding or where there were savings made.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: To be helpful, I ask the Deputy to looks at subhead A8, social disadvantage measures. That may be the subhead under which the Deputy can ask that question.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: We have not come to it yet, and also under subhead A6.

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Yes. Subheads A6 and A8. We will stick with subhead A2, administration, non-pay, corporate services or administration costs in the prisons. Are there any comments or questions on A2? As there are no questions I move on to subhead A4, prisoner services. It includes cost efficiencies relating to the usage and supply of items such as cleaning materials, catering supplies and other large...

Select Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Estimates for Public Services 2015
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána (Supplementary)
Vote 21 - Prisons (Supplementary)
(2 Dec 2015)

David Stanton: Okay. We move to the next subhead A6, educational services. There was a saving of €165,000, a relatively small saving, linked to the overall decrease in prisoner numbers.

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