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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: It was part of the internal audit. Depreciation was mentioned on page 5 of Mr. Barrett's report which reads: I noted with some concern the inclusion of a charge for depreciation but I was given to understand that all capital equipment and fixtures and fittings which would normally attract such a charge were essentially provided by the OPW or the Garda College. That is just one of a number...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Would that have been separate to the interim report?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: That whole area in its own right and in terms of the relationship of the employees, which is well documented here, whether or not they are public servants, merits scrutiny.. Recommendation No. 5 refers to the oversight of Templemore. A lot of this was put in the hands of people who did not have training or were inexperienced. The diagnosis or solution is that a number of courses will be...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Did Mr. Kelly not notice that in internal audit?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: What action did he take?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Yes, but in producing it as an interim report was a follow-up required from Mr. Kelly?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: What follow-up was there?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: That must have been evident. Mr. Kelly has been there since 2007. That must have been evident in the internal audits. Did Mr. Kelly conduct an internal audit every year into every component or would it have been more occasional?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Could I just stop Mr. Kelly there for a moment? The restaurant is where all of the activity was happening. Would that not have grabbed Mr. Kelly's attention?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I am sorry but could I just stop Mr. Kelly there? The money was voted as part of the justice Vote. It would then have transferred to the college. The money was to be used for recruits. Not all of the money was being used. It was being siphoned off and it was going off into the Sportsfield account. If one was doing a basic balance sheet and looking at what was spent and what was taken...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I will go back and make a point to Mr. Barrett about the diagnosis of the problem being inexperienced people. That is how it all happened. The solution was to improve skill sets.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: So it is not a case of an inexperienced person.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: There is nobody in this room that will not concur with that but what is staggering is that we have laws in relation to money laundering and it is very difficult to open a bank account, even a personal bank account. It is difficult to comprehend that there were so many bank accounts. I cannot understand how that was missed in the normal course of events and why it needed to take three...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: I just want to ask this question. Mr. Barrett quoted something which I heard from someone I know personally, who is a former senior person in the Garda from a long time ago. He used the same language so it jumped out at me. He spoke about what goes on when nobody is looking. Essentially, there is a culture and Mr. Barrett goes into it in some detail. I share his concerns. Nobody was...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Is it different now compared to a previous time?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: We are talking about the college, itself-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: ----- the restaurant-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: That is four.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Sorry, the bar and restaurant are separate.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 20 - Garda Síochána - Internal Audit Report on Garda College, Templemore (Resumed) (31 May 2017)

Catherine Murphy: Are the bar and restaurant separate?