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Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: Are spouses and children dealt with separately? One would imagine that they would potentially have-----

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: What about children?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: Does the provision relating to spouses and children apply in this case?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: There is such detail in previous sections that it seems inconsistent for this section not to mention it.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: I agree with the section but why are we exempting judges from other provisions in the Bill while including them under this one?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: Does the Minister have that section in English?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: The commissioner can form a view and act on it.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: Are there restrictions on how he or she formed that view?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: Where are the checks and balances on that particular power? One could get a commissioner who could go rogue.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: A commissioner may have an issue with an individual and use the powers of his or her office to deal with the individual.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: Somebody misusing the powers.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: Hence there should be guidelines as to how one manages that power.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: I do not see where we are going here. I presume this gives the power to the deputy commissioner to appoint a member of staff as opposed to going out on the street.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: Maybe I am being naïve here but I believe it is just tidying up matters so the deputy commissioner can do his or her job and so the staff members can do their job without having to seek powers every time there is an investigation. Is this just being practical or is there something else?

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: It seems to be a theme that the weight of right is completely with the commissioner and with this proposed office. The commissioner can make the call on whether a hearing will be held in public or private but if the person whom the hearing is about wishes to have it in public, he or she will have to apply to the commissioner in this regard. The commissioner can decide on that. Is there an...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: It is completely judicial. There are oaths and witnesses.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: We are in a judicial process. There is a hearing where people are under oath, documents are privileged, the commissioner decides on costs and then this quasi-judicial hearing will maybe dictate whether there could be a criminal investigation. A criminal investigation does not normally presume guilt but in this circumstance guilt would have been determined before a criminal investigation...

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: There has been a hearing, potentially in public, where evidence has been heard and the commissioner makes the call on the outcome of the hearing. That is in public, the findings are discussed and then a criminal investigation starts.

Select Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Public Sector Standards Bill 2015: Committee Stage (6 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: Yes.

Brexit: Statements (Resumed) (11 Apr 2017)

Dara Calleary: Here we are nine months later. The letter is written but we are still very much in the dark as to the potential consequences of Brexit. I fear that it has not dawned on people what those consequences will be either in the case of a soft Brexit, a hard Brexit or in the nightmare scenario where there is no agreement and tariffs start to be imposed. It is only fair to acknowledge that the...

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