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Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: The Minister said that was because an additional 250 people had retired this year over the target of 850. Those 250 people-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Let me finish my question.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: I know.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: The mix is different. I understand.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: The Minister will have to give us the details of the mix.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Let me finish the point. The Minister is coming in here today saying that 250 more than the 850 people he expected to retire when he presented the Estimate at the beginning of the year have now retired or are on the way out - 1,100 in total - and that is costing an extra €27 million in the Supplementary Estimate before us today. It is the biggest element of it. That means the...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Let me finish my question.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Let me finish my question. I do not accept that. I will accept figures backing up the-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: I am. Exactly.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: For the fourth time, I will try to finish my question. I understand the Minister's point-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Yes. I will ask the question for the fourth time. For the extra 250 people the Minister has told us are retiring, he has come in with an Estimate of €27 million.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Let me finish. The Minister stated that the reason, by and large, for the extra €28 million was that 250 more people are retiring than his original budget expectation of 850, which he gave us last January. The figure is now 1,100. That is the principal reason he gave two minutes ago for needing an extra €27 million. If I divide that €27 million - and we will talk...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Hang on. I am coming to that, but I am setting out the figures first. The extra €27 million that the Minister told us is primarily for the 250 extra people retiring-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: It is the principal reason the Minister has given in the document.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: If the Minister tells me his document was not detailed enough I will accept that, but it was the principal reason given. According to the Minister, the Supplementary Estimate in respect of the superannuation Vote arises from the fact that there have been approximately 250 more retirements to date in 2014 than were forecast for the full year. The figure is also 280 higher than the 2013...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: The figure provided gives an average cost per retirement of €108,000.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: As everyone knows, the mix of people leaving the public service each year differs in terms of age, years of experience and salary grades. Before the Supplementary Estimate is sent back to the Dáil, I ask the Minister to provide details of this mix, specifically in terms of the grades and years of service of the 820 people who retired from the public service last year at a cost of...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Is the additional €27 million provided for under this subhead not specifically related to the 250 additional retirements? The logic of the Minister's argument is that he should have pointed out in his opening statement that the Supplementary Estimate is required because 250 more retirements occurred than were provided for and the different mix of ages, grades and experience among this...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: It is not what the Minister said.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: It is not fair to use the phrase "half a wit". Is the Minister referring to members of the public? The public will take his opening statement at face value.