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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: A Common Vision for Cybersecurity: Discussion (31 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank all our witnesses in the room and online. I will not list them all as there are so many of them. The meeting is now adjourned. The next meeting will be a private meeting on MS Teams on Tuesday, 13 June at 4 p.m.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: No apologies have been received and I propose we open the meeting. The purpose of the meeting today is for the joint committee to discuss the long-term strategy and plans for the future development of Irish ports. We are joined by representatives of the Port of Cork, Dublin Port, Shannon Foynes Port Company and Rosslare Europort. I am very pleased to welcome on behalf of the committee: Mr....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Mr. McGettigan and nvite Mr. O'Connell to make an opening statement on behalf of Dublin Port.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Thank you very much, Mr. O'Connell. Now, on behalf of Rosslare Europort, I invite Mr. Carr to make his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Finally, I call Mr. Keating from Shannon Foynes Port Company. I think we heard from its chairman recently.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We have a rota of our 14 members, with each member moving up each time. I actually get the first slot this time, but I will be back to No. 14 next week. I thank all the witnesses for their comprehensive opening statements, which contain a general thread of commonality. We are here to talk about long-term strategy and so everyone is talking about their future plans, infrastructure,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Are they needed to the extent that it was thought they would be?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I know that Cork and Shannon have a number of facilities. Dublin Port is basically one entity. It comprises areas north and the south of the Liffey, but it is all one entity. It does not have any other operations anywhere else.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: As to the Minister's concerns about Dublin Port's plans, what would your response be as to why it is as important as it is?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Again, those exports are generally being manufactured within the hinterland of the Dublin area. There was a point made, I think, that 60% of it is within 40 km and over 70% is within 90 km.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I would think that the idea of moving the port to Drogheda, Dundalk or somewhere else, which has been talked about occasionally, does not make sense. We have already built the port tunnel, which was specifically for the port. It would not seem to make sense to do that, but there are arguments that if a lot of what Dublin Port is doing is exporting from the hinterland of Dublin and, equally,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Mr. O'Connell. I am conscious of time. Mr. O'Connell might touch, with some of the others, on passengers because we did not have much reference to them and whether there is scope for doing more. I am aware that Rosslare, Cork and Dublin do a bit. I am not so sure Shannon does too much on the passenger side. It would be interesting to see. With the climate crisis, etc., depending...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Mr. McGettigan wants to contribute on this point as well, if that is okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Mr. Keating and Deputy Lowry.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I will give everyone another round and if we need a third round we will have it depending on time. It is almost seven years since the Brexit vote happened. A bit like Y2K and other issues, there was - not scaremongering - but concern about what would be needed. Mr. O'Connell has referred to the fact that Brexit space is not as badly needed as thought. Obviously we have all occasionally...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It has been more of a win than a loss.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Mr. O'Connell has touched on this. With regard to Brexit, Dublin Port has all of this space that it would like to get back. Is there any other aspect of Brexit he has seen that is good or bad?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The land bridge is diminished.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: By "unitised", Mr. Sheary means containers.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Ports Development: Discussion (10 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Much of which continued on to continental Europe.

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