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Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: ----- totalling €4.2 million.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Therefore, would Mr. Poole agree there is a content of ----- or how would he describe that money? Is it not taxpayers' money?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Taxpayers' money goes into the entity that pays out all these salaries.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Including Ms Kerins.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: That is a fact.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Lastly, on the coffins issue, while I will come back to this again I seek clarification for the present. Complete Eco Solutions brought in the coffins. Who within Rehab was responsible for that whole enterprise?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: To where did Mr. Horgan then go? To whom did he report directly?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: He reported directly to Ms Kerins.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: His duty in part was the coffins.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Yes but within that, he had a duty to do with the coffins.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: What happened to Mr. Horgan?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Was there a question that he questioned issues about the coffins?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Not at that time. Did he at any other time? Is it not a fact that Rehab was in negotiations with Mr. Horgan to leave and that Mr. Flannery acted with Mr. Horgan?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Okay. Did Mr. Horgan receive any payment from the organisation in settlement when he left?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: I will not get frustrated with Mr. Poole at all. I said the public probably will become frustrated with him.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: What was Gandon Coffins?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: The remainder of the coffins then were sold.

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: To whom?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: Did the purchaser pay Rehab for them?

Public Accounts Committee: Payments to Section 39 Companies: (Resumed) Rehab Group (10 Apr 2014)

John McGuinness: And they are gone.

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