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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The time is up.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The Deputy's time is up.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank Deputy O'Rourke. I am going to take a little bit of time at this stage. The Minister has touched on a lot of issues and we have covered quite a lot. He referenced planning in his opening statement. We need to examine the concept of where we are building everything from our houses and dwellings to jobs. I recall at one stage being on the regional authority and being told that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: It is actually more hazardous at the moment because there are signs everywhere but I get the Minister's point. It is a work in progress.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I am not trying to be negative. I am being positive about a lot of the stuff. A place like Dún Laoghaire has so many buildings that are not being used in the way they should be able to be used. They do not all have to become shops again. Some of them could be residential properties Quite often, there is empty space above the shops. This applies not just to Dún Laoghaire but to...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I do not think any of us mentioned 24-hour buses. We need far more of them. I know it is difficult to find drivers but there are routes in Dublin that are 24-hour and they are very beneficial in terms of people being able to work, particularly young people working in the night-time economy not having to spend huge amounts of their hard-earned income on taxis home. The Minister is as close...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: A bus with 20 passengers on board produces far less emissions than 20 taxis does.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I am conscious of the Minister's time but have a question on children and younger people being facilitated with a trial bike scheme. I am not saying that everybody has an issue with costs but some people might not be willing to go off and buy a bike if it is only going to be used for the occasional trip. A lot of people have bikes anyway but if people wanted to get a bike, could we have a...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I do not know of any examples. It is not something that I saw elsewhere. I just think that some people, before they go off and spend €300 or €400 on a bike, would like to try it out. When they actually try it a lot of them will realise that it is fine, that it gets them from A to B more quickly than the car and that it does not rain as much here as we think it does. Children...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: People in offices will start to tell each other that their commuting time is shorter now than it ever was.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I did not even touch on the health benefits. Obviously, there are health benefits but the reliability of journey time for bikes compared to cars in an urban setting is invaluable. Certainly in rural areas, if the roads are quiet, I can see why people would use their car, particularly as the distances are much longer, but in an urban setting people are never going to move faster in a car...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Transport Sectoral Emissions Ceiling: Minister for Transport (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: I thank the Minister and all of this officials for being here today. We had a very useful conversation. I now propose that we take a small break to allow our current witness to leave and our next witnesses to join us.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Standard Instrument Departures at Dublin Airport: Irish Aviation Authority (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: On behalf of the committee I am pleased to welcome from the Irish Aviation Authority, IAA, its new chief executive officer, Mr. Declan Fitzpatrick; Mr. Jim Gavin, chief operations officer; and Mr. Adrian Corcoran, director of economic regulation, consumer affairs and licensing. Witnesses are reminded of the long-standing parliamentary practice that they should not criticise or make charges...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Standard Instrument Departures at Dublin Airport: Irish Aviation Authority (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: That was certainly a very comprehensive opening statement. Although I thought I knew a bit about aviation, I did not hear of SARPs, STARs or PANs before. There is a lot of jargon and technical information. We have present some particularly interested Deputies who live quite close to the airport. Deputy Farrell, who has joined us today, is very welcome. I will go through the roster in...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Standard Instrument Departures at Dublin Airport: Irish Aviation Authority (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Is that based on a British regulation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Standard Instrument Departures at Dublin Airport: Irish Aviation Authority (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: To clarify, it is based on a UK regulation. The UK could say that we recognise EASA but that it does not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Standard Instrument Departures at Dublin Airport: Irish Aviation Authority (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: We have had advice from the Office of Parliamentary Legal Advisers about what we can and cannot say. I remind members to be careful in all their contributions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Standard Instrument Departures at Dublin Airport: Irish Aviation Authority (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: Is "quite a number of years" five or six, or 40 or 50?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Standard Instrument Departures at Dublin Airport: Irish Aviation Authority (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: That is long before the development plan for the airport was being approved.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Standard Instrument Departures at Dublin Airport: Irish Aviation Authority (17 May 2023)

Gerry Horkan: The Deputy's suggestion is good. I thank Mr. Fitzpatrick for agreeing to it. I have some questions for the witnesses. At the moment, the procedure is that the planes taking off on the new runway are banking to the right, while those taking off from the original runway are going straight on. I am sure other people have asked this before but I do so for my own benefit. Is there the...

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