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Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (18 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Higher income earners.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (18 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: To be clear, this provision will extend this tax break to landlords.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (18 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Yes. I supported the home extension scheme, the logic being that it would generate work for builders and so on and obviously would be of some benefit to ordinary householders seeking to carry out renovations. However, when one starts to extend it to landlords - I might not have as much of a problem with small-scale landlords with one or two properties - against a background where major...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (18 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I did.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (18 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I have lived in some of those bedsits, some of which were less than pleasant and, consequently, I see the advantage of trying to do something about that. As an aside, I note the real way to deal with the supply problem is for the State to engage in a far more ambitious public housing programme. However, setting all that aside, my concern is that the unintended beneficiaries of this measure...

Written Answers — Department of Children and Youth Affairs: Mental Health Services Provision (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: 33. To ask the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs the number of beds purchased in 2014 in private mental health facilities for children and adolescents in Tusla; if these were child or adult mental health facilities; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [43983/14]

Written Answers — Department of Children and Youth Affairs: Child and Family Agency Expenditure (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: 34. To ask the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs if he will provide a breakdown of the cost over-run of Tusla for 2014 and in particular to comment on the extent to which the over-run relates to the cost of purchasing private beds for children and adolescents; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [43982/14]

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: May I make a point?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I want to raise a point of procedure.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: It is entirely reasonable that the Chairman wants to focus on the amendments and the sections of the Bill and wants to progress the meeting. However, I have two points to make. Some of these amendments will be more controversial-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: As much from the Minister as from us, in fairness.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I ask the Chairman to consider the point-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I am being very reasonable, am I not?

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: My second point is that I think it is fair enough when considering taxation measures to talk about alternative taxation, the different taxation choices that are being made in the Finance Bill, without getting into detailed discussions about the merits of other taxes. It is a reasonable point to make that making decisions on one tax policy as against others is relevant.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Any tax regime has to have a moral base. I do not accept that we can waive fairness for some perceived pragmatic gain. I do not know how, when people who are on lower incomes are battered with taxes and are struggling as a result, the Minister of State can justify people on extraordinarily high earnings getting further tax breaks. Many people might also ask why these executives could not...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: Let me explain the logic behind what the Minister of State is arguing for. This is a two-tier tax system - one system for the rich and shareholders in big corporations and another system for the little guy. It was Donald Trump who said taxes are for the little person.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: He is not and there is no doubt he has benefited from these types of tax breaks. However, a tax system must have a moral and ethical basis and this one does not have that.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: On the face of it this seems to be a positive amendment section but I would like to fully understand what is proposed. It seems to be a measure to impose penalties on principal contractors who make payments to subcontractors where those subcontractors, or the principal contractors themselves, are not fully tax compliant. I very much welcome the measure. This morning I was up very early,...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I am chewing the cud.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Finance: Finance Bill 2014: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Nov 2014)

Richard Boyd Barrett: I got some of that but I will have to study carefully what the Minister said and pass it on to people who are dealing with it at the coalface. I am aware the public contract side of this has to do with other Departments but major concern was expressed about the Revenue side of it. If the RCT1, if that is what it is called, holder who is the sub-contractor is not known to Revenue, the...

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